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09-09-2012, 10:38 AM
RE: Why doesn't Obama help his family?
I don't know about you, Jeff, but I don't consider a mere seven sentences to be a rant. Also, where does he contradict himself? I see no intolerance of anyone. There is some name calling but I see it as a necessary evil. Where on earth do you get Anti-American? Emotional... yeah maybe, but again, it's only seven sentences (two of which aren't even complete) and I don't see how anyone could get a lot of emotion into that short a time frame. Lastly, I thought it had a decent amount of substance... again, only seven sentences.

So... well done to you, sir, on a typical reaction to a liberal mind.

Step 1: Make the word liberal seem bad.
Step 2: Call them anti-American.
Step 3: Vote Mitt Romney.

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09-09-2012, 11:33 AM (This post was last modified: 09-09-2012 11:40 AM by Diablo666.)
RE: Why doesn't Obama help his family?
(09-09-2012 10:27 AM)Jeff Wrote:  
(09-09-2012 09:44 AM)Diablo666 Wrote:  He is right, you need common poles to make any meaningful judgement that can be agreed upon. This is common sense.

Well lets look at intelligence for example.
On on side of the spectrum you have Einstein.
On the other side there is an ant.

And slightly above that ant is you and most Americans. Because you would have to be a drooling moron to be swayed in any way by this ridiculous story.

Well done sir, a liberal rant in the finest tradition - self-contradictory, intolerant, name-calling, anti-american, emotional and lacking of substance.
Who am I intolerant of? Idiots... Hmm... Well of you got me there.

Unlike you, I don't label myself and take the ideas of groups without question. I always look at the facts of each position, and ignore the bias opinions of the ill informed and manipulative (cough Faux News cough). Thus, I don't really consider myself a liberal, though many of my beliefs fall more onto that side of the political spectrum. It's not so much a political choice so much as that is simply where the facts lie.

Anti-American? I am not anti-american, just anti govt corruption. The corruption is what is really anti-american. For instance, do you remember that time a certain political party decided to turn the US president in a lame duck? Thus intentionally tanking the economy to make the president look bad, just so they could win the next election. If that's not anti-american, then I don't know what the fuck is.

Where is the contradiction? I hardly even wrote anything, never mind enough to contradict.

Emotional? I think you are thinking of yourself here. I don't get emotional by trivial things such as pseudo-journalism and internet posts, that's you. That was sort of the point of my post. You are not thinking logically, but with emotions, which is why you think this ridiculous article is more than a bad joke.

Substance? I think there was plenty of substance neatly wrapped in a small package. You asked two dumb questions, and I gave appropriate responses.
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09-09-2012, 12:14 PM
RE: Why doesn't Obama help his family?
(09-09-2012 11:33 AM)Diablo666 Wrote:  
(09-09-2012 10:27 AM)Jeff Wrote:  Well done sir, a liberal rant in the finest tradition - self-contradictory, intolerant, name-calling, anti-american, emotional and lacking of substance.
Who am I intolerant of? Idiots... Hmm... Well of you got me there.

Yes, demonize and hate. That's your intolerance at work.

(09-09-2012 11:33 AM)Diablo666 Wrote:  Unlike you, I don't label myself and take the ideas of groups without question.

Please show me where I have done this.

(09-09-2012 11:33 AM)Diablo666 Wrote:  I always look at the facts of each position, and ignore the bias opinions of the ill informed and manipulative (cough Faux News cough). Thus, I don't really consider myself a liberal, though many of my beliefs fall more onto that side of the political spectrum. It's not so much a political choice so much as that is simply where the facts lie.

Right. You just believe what's factual and correct. It's the other guys who are biased and believe what's wrong. What a unique perspective you have!

(09-09-2012 11:33 AM)Diablo666 Wrote:  Anti-American? I am not anti-american, just anti govt corruption.

Wow. Did you read your own post? I quote you "And slightly above that ant is you and most Americans. " Yup, nothing anti-american there ...

(09-09-2012 11:33 AM)Diablo666 Wrote:  Where is the contradiction? I hardly even wrote anything, never mind enough to contradict.

Yes, your stupid/word ratio is quite high. The contradiction? Claiming that you use common sense, and then proposing an ant as one pole of your human intelligence scale.

(09-09-2012 11:33 AM)Diablo666 Wrote:  Emotional? I think you are thinking of yourself here. I don't get emotional by trivial things such as pseudo-journalism and internet posts, that's you. That was sort of the point of my post.

Your emotional outburst was calling me a drooling moron.

(09-09-2012 11:33 AM)Diablo666 Wrote:  Substance?

You offered nothing of substance on the point of the article or the questions asked about it. Other than that, great post!Thumbsup
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09-09-2012, 01:52 PM (This post was last modified: 09-09-2012 02:19 PM by Diablo666.)
RE: Why doesn't Obama help his family?
Quote: Your emotional outburst was calling me a drooling moron.
I only state facts. I know you conservatives hate those pesky things though.

Case in point, look at how stupid this comment is.

"Wow. Did you read your own post? I quote you "And slightly above that ant is you and most Americans. " Yup, nothing anti-american there ..."

That is not in itself anti-american, not even close.
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09-09-2012, 01:58 PM
RE: Why doesn't Obama help his family?
Wasn't it a Republican who said that fact-checkers needed to screw off out of their campaign?

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16-11-2012, 05:27 PM
RE: Why doesn't Obama help his family?
(07-09-2012 04:45 PM)Jeff Wrote:  Before you libs go apeshit and start firing at me for raising anything potentially negative about Obama, try to understand that I am asking this question simply out of political curiosity.

I keep seeing stories about Obama family members (half-brothers from Kenya I believe) and how he doesn't help them financially or otherwise. There's a story here from (Danger Will Robinson, Danger!) FoxNews.com http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/1...a-brother/ by Dinesh D'Souza that recounts how Obama's half brother, George, needed $1000 for medical bills and called Dinesh, who he only knew from working on his film, for the money.

What do you make of this? Why doesn't Obama help out his half-family? Even only if cynically, to avoid looking like an uncaring family member or hypocrite. Obama is financially very well off, worth somewhere around $10 million at this point. He stands to earn about $50 million in the next 20 years as a former President. He could help all these people and not even feel it financially. Why doesn't he?
Obama catches enough racist shit just for sharing a fraction of DNA with these people, could you imagine what people would say if a penny that he had been in the same room as made it into Kenya? Really? I'm not sure you thought this through very well.

I'm not a supporter of Obama, and he is a neo-liberal douche just like Bush before him and Romney, and the rest... but the vast majority of the mainstream political criticism against him has more to do with his genetics than his politics. I think that it is important to remember that when they say "Obama is a Socialist," what they really mean is that "Obama isn't white."

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