Why don't you believe in a possible God?
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17-01-2016, 05:42 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
But wouldn't a possible God be a relief after all the impossible ones we have been confronted with all our lives? I really would like to hear more about this possible God!
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17-01-2016, 05:52 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
(17-01-2016 12:39 AM)GrandMasterK Wrote:  A universe of laws without a lawmaker is a curious one.

Unless you have some book of laws written by "god" -- you'll have to agree that all the "laws" of our physical universe are invented by humans who have limited knowledge.

Those "laws" are fluid - and will continue to change as we explore and better understand our universe.

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Anyone who claims to have "it all figured out" is full of shit - doubly so if they came upon their "facts" from some moldy collection of old books, written by people who considered the world flat, the center of the universe, and created by some spooky cockknocker who thinks that women are inferior, penises need trimming, and there's some species of talking snakes........................

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That's not a law.

It's just an observation.

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17-01-2016, 06:01 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
(17-01-2016 03:23 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  A universe with a god must have a god maker Smile

Care to take a guess at who those god makers are ?

Titans? Primordials? Giant sand worms? Hucksters? Bandai?

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17-01-2016, 06:04 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
Let's take a 6 sided dice and roll it.
Its possible that any of those faces on the 6 sided dice could appear face up.

Its possible for each face to appear face up because each face of the 6 sided dice do in fact exist.

We cannot write a gods name on any face of the dice because it has not been shown that such as being exists, therefore we cannot say "its possible"

If we discovered that 3 different gods existed and all three could shape shift into the form of a very large dragon, then when we saw a very large dragon, we could say that its possible that the dragon is either god A, god B, or god C.

I could be wrong, but I believe possibilities deal with existing materia. You cannot derive a possibility from things that have not been shown to exist.

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17-01-2016, 06:20 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
So the proposition that there is no God can be dismissed due to lack of evidence?

Nice to know.
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17-01-2016, 06:23 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
It's a cost-benefit thing. I see no particular advantage in trying to believe in things that might exist when I can simply deal with the real world instead.
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17-01-2016, 06:27 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
I'm an agnostic atheist. Checkmate, Stereotype!
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17-01-2016, 06:36 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
(17-01-2016 06:20 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  So the proposition that there is no God can be dismissed due to lack of evidence?

Nice to know.

Yes.

This is how it works pops. Just like there are no flying pink elephants.

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17-01-2016, 06:39 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
(17-01-2016 06:20 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  So the proposition that there is no God can be dismissed due to lack of evidence?

Nice to know.

The claim that there is nothing that could qualify as a god requires evidence as the burden of proof applies to any claim. There is circumstantial evidence in that everything we've discovered to date operates without any god intervening but I would not call that conclusive. That's why I remain an agnostic atheist although, as somebody else posted recently, I'm agnostic about gods the way I'm agnostic about leprechauns. If You have evidence that they exist I'll look but until then there's no reason to assume that they are anything but imaginary creatures.

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17-01-2016, 07:03 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
(17-01-2016 06:39 PM)unfogged Wrote:  
(17-01-2016 06:20 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  So the proposition that there is no God can be dismissed due to lack of evidence?

Nice to know.

The claim that there is nothing that could qualify as a god requires evidence as the burden of proof applies to any claim. There is circumstantial evidence in that everything we've discovered to date operates without any god intervening but I would not call that conclusive. That's why I remain an agnostic atheist although, as somebody else posted recently, I'm agnostic about gods the way I'm agnostic about leprechauns. If You have evidence that they exist I'll look but until then there's no reason to assume that they are anything but imaginary creatures.
I can respect that.

You say the observable things don't necessitate GOD. But the nature of all existence seems to go along some path of sorts. We can somewhat identify causes, but cannot connect all the causes or determine the reason for their nature.

Before this existence would have been what?

Beyond this existence lies what?

What binds these very physical laws we can observe?

What set all in motion?

What gave us the peculiar thing that is life among this mass void?

No, the observable is such because GOD wills it.

There is a creative/driving force.

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