Why don't you believe in a possible God?
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17-01-2016, 07:10 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
(17-01-2016 07:03 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  No, the observable is such because GOD wills it.

There is a creative/driving force.

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Prove it!

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17-01-2016, 07:15 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
I AM God, asshole. Get the fuck out of my face before I rain some old testament justice on your pathetic sorry ass.

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17-01-2016, 07:17 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
(17-01-2016 07:03 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  You say the observable things don't necessitate GOD. But the nature of all existence seems to go along some path of sorts. We can somewhat identify causes, but cannot connect all the causes or determine the reason for their nature.

Before this existence would have been what?

Beyond this existence lies what?

What binds these very physical laws we can observe?

What set all in motion?

What gave us the peculiar thing that is life among this mass void?

We don't know yet. Not having an answer does not justify cooking up a gap filler.
We do get than childish minds require an answer today to continue operating.

(17-01-2016 07:03 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  No, the observable is such because GOD wills it.

There is a creative/driving force.

Peace

So your evil deity wills innocent babies to get cancer.
You're even more of a fool than I thought.

Life (there is no absolute boundary between life and non-life) arose spontaneously. The chemistry is WAY over your simple-minded level of science knowledge.

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17-01-2016, 07:18 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
(17-01-2016 07:03 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  No, the observable is such because GOD wills it.

There is a creative/driving force.

Peace

No, the observable is such because a magical invisible kangaroo wills it.

If this ^ makes no sense to you, then maybe you can understand why your statement makes no sense to me.

My claim and your claim are exactly the same.

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17-01-2016, 07:21 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
(17-01-2016 07:10 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Prove it!

I prefer to say "Show me." It sounds less confrontational and is more likely to leave the other person groping for something to actually come up with.
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17-01-2016, 07:24 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
(17-01-2016 07:21 PM)jabeady Wrote:  
(17-01-2016 07:10 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Prove it!

I prefer to say "Show me." It sounds less confrontational and is more likely to leave the other person groping for something to actually come up with.

Aussies are usually pretty straight to the point.

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17-01-2016, 07:27 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
(17-01-2016 07:21 PM)jabeady Wrote:  
(17-01-2016 07:10 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Prove it!

I prefer to say "Show me." It sounds less confrontational and is more likely to leave the other person groping for something to actually come up with.

Language is important. Very important.
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17-01-2016, 07:30 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
(17-01-2016 07:18 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  
(17-01-2016 07:03 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  No, the observable is such because GOD wills it.

There is a creative/driving force.

Peace

No, the observable is such because a magical invisible kangaroo wills it.

If this ^ makes no sense to you, then maybe you can understand why your statement makes no sense to me.

My claim and your claim are exactly the same.
Not at all.

I don't claim to know of the countenance of God, but what God wills. You claim to know it fully as a ...kangaroo.

Giving human qualities to the One Creator GOD is a means of understanding based on our limited perspective, yet many let it wholly flaw their motives.

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17-01-2016, 07:33 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
(17-01-2016 12:39 AM)GrandMasterK Wrote:  A universe of laws without a lawmaker is a curious one.

You've got it all bass ackwards. We are the law makers. The laws of nature are not something imposed on nature. They are general principles that we induced from observations of nature that describe and define how nature operates. They are descriptive, not prescriptive. They are a product of our consciousness and would not exist without us. Nature would still exist and things would behave as they do but we would not be here to make the laws.

A universe of laws without a law giver, in the sense of a consciousness that imposes it's will on things and makes them orderly, is exactly what we have. A universe with a lawgiver would violate the primacy of existence and so it can not be true.

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17-01-2016, 07:36 PM
RE: Why don't you believe in a possible God?
(17-01-2016 07:21 PM)jabeady Wrote:  
(17-01-2016 07:10 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Prove it!

I prefer to say "Show me." It sounds less confrontational and is more likely to leave the other person groping for something to actually come up with.
First, throw out greed, consciously.

Be utterly introspective and honest with self on all levels, even if only through retrospect initially.

If you can do both of those, I'm bet you'd get shown.
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