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21-12-2013, 12:12 AM (This post was last modified: 21-12-2013 12:15 AM by savedwheat.)
Why is Atheism is False and Free Will is a Bitch!
The only word in the English language to claim God does not exist is "Atheism". But to make this claim that God does not exist is a false claim, because the Atheist will be the first person to admit they don't have any evidence for their extraordinary claim.

Therefore, the right position to take if you still are not a Theist is Agnosticism, because in your feelings you are still not sure if God exists. That's where I come in to prove to you God exists so you are without excuse.

Since nature always has a cause as evidenced by the fact we observe trillions and trillions of cause and effects in nature and no hard evidence something comes from nothing, we know the universe can't come from nothing or non-existence.

Secondly, we know the universe can't always have existed in an infinite regress of cause and effects, because if it had, you would have had an eternity to come into being before now, so you should have already happened.

Thus, we know that nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated. The one and only uncreated Creator is Whom we call God. God is both uncreated and the creator.

I can understand, therefore, the difficulty you might have shutting your site down now that you know you are living a lie, but maybe just change the name of the site to "Unthinking Atheist."

The more likely thing that will happen though I suspect is you will continue to rationalize your flesh come hell or high water which is an utterly corrupt way to live. The definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing and expecting a different result. Atheism is dying today the world over. It is experiencing a serious blow as documented here...

http://www.garyhabermas.com/audio/Haberm...s-2013.mp3

Free will is a bitch!
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21-12-2013, 12:15 AM
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Reported for trying to reopen closed topic.
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21-12-2013, 12:24 AM
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(21-12-2013 12:12 AM)savedwheat Wrote:  The definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing and expecting a different result.

So craps croupiers are insane?
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21-12-2013, 12:36 AM
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(21-12-2013 12:12 AM)savedwheat Wrote:  The only word in the English language to claim God does not exist is "Atheism". But to make this claim that God does not exist is a false claim, because the Atheist will be the first person to admit they don't have any evidence for their extraordinary claim.

Therefore, the right position to take if you still are not a Theist is Agnosticism, because in your feelings you are still not sure if God exists. That's where I come in to prove to you God exists so you are without excuse.

Since nature always has a cause as evidenced by the fact we observe trillions and trillions of cause and effects in nature and no hard evidence something comes from nothing, we know the universe can't come from nothing or non-existence.

Secondly, we know the universe can't always have existed in an infinite regress of cause and effects, because if it had, you would have had an eternity to come into being before now, so you should have already happened.

Thus, we know that nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated. The one and only uncreated Creator is Whom we call God. God is both uncreated and the creator.

I can understand, therefore, the difficulty you might have shutting your site down now that you know you are living a lie, but maybe just change the name of the site to "Unthinking Atheist."

The more likely thing that will happen though I suspect is you will continue to rationalize your flesh come hell or high water which is an utterly corrupt way to live. The definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing and expecting a different result. Atheism is dying today the world over. It is experiencing a serious blow as documented here...

http://www.garyhabermas.com/audio/Haberm...s-2013.mp3

Free will is a bitch!

You really need to do much better!
God is generally held as a perfect moral entity who loves us.
An initiial creative force is quite a lesser claim.
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21-12-2013, 12:38 AM
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(21-12-2013 12:12 AM)savedwheat Wrote:  ....

Took the initiative and removed all the known fallacies, incorrect claims to knowledge, presuppositions, "evidence" that is not actually evidence, and other conversational problems out for you once again.

(You are very kindly welcomeSmile )

The above quote is your remaining argument which sounds a great deal like the chirp, chirp, chirpity of the crickets.Hobo
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21-12-2013, 12:45 AM
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This looks like spam to me
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21-12-2013, 12:50 AM
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This one is still not getting the difference between 'knowledge' and 'belief'.

I'm reminded of the debate between Lame Craig and Hitch when Hitch was explaining it, repeatedly and Craig kept saying arrhhh-theism like it was a new word for him.

So sweet.

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21-12-2013, 12:57 AM
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(21-12-2013 12:12 AM)savedwheat Wrote:  The definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing and expecting a different result.

Said the child making the same thread over and over and over and over....

Oh by the way that's not the definition of insanity it's a quote from Albert Einstein. Who as I'm sure you will be able to likely, probably, maybe figure out is NOT a dictionary but rather a human man being. There is a difference. A quote is also not a definition. There is a difference.

Also you are quoting a man who thinks your ideas are stupid, which I find delightfully whimsical! Laughat

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/insanity

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21-12-2013, 02:01 AM
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I don't know how many times this needs to be said, but atheism and agnosticism are not mutually exclusive.

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21-12-2013, 02:04 AM
RE: Why is Atheism is False and Free Will is a Bitch!
Oh God.. you again !? shoo shoo!

Dreams/Hallucinations/delusions are not evidence
Wishful thinking is not evidence
Disproved statements&Illogical conclusions are not evidence
Logical fallacies&Unsubstantiated claims are not evidence
Vague prophecies is not evidence
Data that requires a certain belief is not evidence
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