Why is Jesus' death considered a sacrifice?
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03-10-2013, 11:37 AM
RE: Why is Jesus' death considered a sacrifice?
(03-10-2013 10:25 AM)absols Wrote:  you are sadomaso not jesus

why do u keep calling urself guilty or that god should forgive u ..it is weird ..why how could u possibly think that u owe smthg from being mortals in condition of life so always done before what yourself conscious alone must carry
u dont realize ur being from any objective perspective

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03-10-2013, 11:55 AM
RE: Why is Jesus' death considered a sacrifice?
euh..the sadomaso who said that i guess he is a believer, seeing himself living through the father and the son as the spirit of gods life between them
wat a shit position tell me about it

how stupid are those logics constructions, father anger pfffttt... how does it make a circle or a circular thinking

u know the secret of the circular they are so proud about as the print of divine standards???

they reversed positive rights then they invent being positive of that and they confirm it of anything forced as a lie

it is like about reversing a point while staying positive, it is not nothing when it is about reversing right existing things, and it is not of opposites making one, when they are inventing everything there is no other present sense
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03-10-2013, 11:59 AM
RE: Why is Jesus' death considered a sacrifice?
oops ..sorry i just realized it was u, i didnt meant anything, just saying that there is no father nor son and no anger from powers

u dont realize what that mean to b in powers it is never about u it is always from what u abuse in hands
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03-10-2013, 12:09 PM (This post was last modified: 03-10-2013 06:33 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Why is Jesus' death considered a sacrifice?
Why ?
Because Saul of Tarsus, when he invented Paulianity, needed to compete with the Greek mystery cults. "Personal salvation/purification" is a Zoroastrian concept, absent in Hebrew culture. They did sacrifices for "ritual" (external) purification. (Saul got it from Mithraism .. Tarsus was a hotbed of Mitraism/Zoroastrianiam).
So Saul grafted/conflated the ideas, onto the new cult, and "salvation" was invented.
When the "young man" asked Jebus in the gospel what he had to do to obtain "eternal life", the gospel writer makes Jebus reply "Keep the commandments". Nothing else. No .. "Just wait, I'll be dying for your sins".
The role of a messiah was never to BE (a) the sacrifice. They invented it for marketing purposes.

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03-10-2013, 12:25 PM
RE: Why is Jesus' death considered a sacrifice?
(03-10-2013 11:59 AM)absols Wrote:  oops ..sorry i just realized it was u, i didnt meant anything, just saying that there is no father nor son and no anger from powers

u dont realize what that mean to b in powers it is never about u it is always from what u abuse in hands

Uhhh.

I was suggesting a handwave (a shitty explanation meant to shut up questioners) for the sake of humor.

Never did I suggest I actually believed it.
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03-10-2013, 12:28 PM
RE: Why is Jesus' death considered a sacrifice?
(03-10-2013 12:09 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Why ?
Because Saul of Tarsus

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Having had a similar experience with Holy Spirit I have concluded that Jesus is entirely an allegorical device invented by Paul to bridge the mortal to the divine. (Even test it in the field wif my Gwynnies Heart Which is why I'm here running my neck. Well, that and weed...)

Anyhoo, such philosophy eliminates contradictions, making it, IMHO, more likely correct.

(Of course, this is from a nutbag. Big Grin)

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03-10-2013, 12:28 PM (This post was last modified: 03-10-2013 12:32 PM by absols.)
RE: Why is Jesus' death considered a sacrifice?
while this idea goes very well with jesus as i see, salvation purification it is his thing

that insistence to mean becoming powerful by exploring inner potentials, that insistence to b evil one

from truth abuse, wether objective knowledge abuse or nonexistence possible abuse

so that is how it would mean to catch an inner original sense with all to b credible in being form as above all
positive one powers

the difference between jesus and satan is what satan mean freedom where jesus mean positive, through almost same ways while the living sense so through what they abuse is positive life for jesus and free conscious to satan

in that mean, jesus is more evil bc positive is the freedom and never anything

but satan is absolute evil in the sense of freedom absolutely it cant b cruel while satan existence is bc truth is killed by god so free cruauty really is possible to him when dealing with any other or else
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03-10-2013, 12:33 PM
RE: Why is Jesus' death considered a sacrifice?
(03-10-2013 12:09 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Why ?
Because Saul of Tarsus, when he invented Paulianity, needed to compete with the Greek mystery cults. "Personal salvation/purification" is a Zoroastrian concept, absent in Hebrew culture. They did sacrifices for "ritual" (external) purification.
So Saul grafted/conflated to ideas, and "salvation" was invented.
When the "young man" asked Jebus in the gospel what he had to do to obtain "eternal life", the gospel writer makes Jebus reply "Keep the commandments". Nothing else. No .. "Just wait, I'll be dying for your sins".
The role of a messiah was never to BE (a) the sacrifice. They invented it for marketing purposes.

Its power as an idea or meme may have lain in its parallel with scapegoating which was an existing part of that culture.

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03-10-2013, 12:37 PM (This post was last modified: 03-10-2013 12:44 PM by absols.)
RE: Why is Jesus' death considered a sacrifice?
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Uhhh.

I was suggesting a handwave (a shitty explanation meant to shut up questioners) for the sake of humor.

Never did I suggest I actually believed it.

aiiie ... it sounds so real...sorrry

it is already difficult to mean smthg truly in words so when it is about not meaning it must b impossible

i see words in truth actually not of ones means
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03-10-2013, 01:34 PM
RE: Why is Jesus' death considered a sacrifice?
(03-10-2013 10:25 AM)absols Wrote:  you are sadomaso not jesus

why do u keep calling urself guilty or that god should forgive u ..it is weird ..why how could u possibly think that u owe smthg from being mortals in condition of life so always done before what yourself conscious alone must carry
u dont realize ur being from any objective perspective

if there is something up they owe u a lot a lot

no mortal could ever b judged unless of course if they are really like those poweful gods, they are the animals cruauty and disgusting behaviors

what is a miserable self conscious being in everything

how could u believe being wrong

while u know that it is not the place the world is fine relatively bc its speaks to u with less evil of course
or without is better

u should know better, being so small when one must b relative to take care of himself right is a very positive thing, noone of u ever decided to b, u would decide if u could mean objective powers like those gods over things existence and others having to b as representing existence rights

like guitar nut said, wat happen to jesus that day was nothing compared to what always god do

they live only from those dirty pleasures of abusing isolations of conscious beings
it is the only way of being one powerful life from the positive right the being represent in truth

even when speaking in truth it wont change

they reached to join where they can benefit from powers over freedom abused rights and their true positive means still stands

so it is always through worse torture that they are present positive, not the reverse

so on the contrary god is angry when someone act right or is supported to

god is not the father of jesus, they are the same identity, positive so present in replacing present superiority

when they hear superiority they immediately move and start by willing to step on

they are freak bc like jealeous of truth when truth they know it is none

they see it as a thing they cant stay objective

it is the opportunity of true superiority from true inferiors

somewhere superiority and inferiority is one

the inferior so the shit is smwhere basically a superiority that went wrong

so it is the love to identify and justify themsevles as superior by killing true superiority

like satan and god are also one but with jesus it is more same abstract conception almost of being positive present sense

the image where it is principally promoting lies on the base of rights abuse and superior powers willing means to live, so the image accessory where it was relatively meaning smthg present, was about god through jesus knowing it, asking forgiveness from people, talking about love so where the anger is people reaction that refuse to forgive , even his students like reacted in truth seeing jesus meaning being superior as wrong they couldnt defend him while enjoying his powers and the sense of getting some hopes through a concern of the sky to men

wat always treat people of course jesus is that way too, like inferior for sure so with no respect to any equality right of being existing so to same reference somehow, they are of course hated in truth the hate that noone would say bc anyone is the positive present sense that can stand still
so u cant mean hate to god such living powerful fact possessing ur condition of being, cant possible mean itself in negative terms to conceive being out of it free, it is impossible, present is only positive bc true

but it is a lie, jesus and god never meant any forgiveness from people or being they constantly possess, on the contrary they want from them to pay constantly their nonexistence, to b grateful and meaning that they made them as they are and stick to character they decided them to wear as a living body inferior
for god and jesus nobody exist noone even they really believe being all

they dont take even true conscious seriously as being really

what matter is the truth that is why, they are evil according to truth so really absolute absolutely bad whatever they try to pretend not

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