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11-03-2014, 03:14 PM
RE: Why is religious scripture(s) believed to be real, but not...
Religious texts, past and present claim to offer "the truth" about our origins, the meaning of life and salvation from death and suffering.

They also threaten punishment if you disbelieve them.

Other fictional stories both old and new generally don't do any of that.

But, a lot of ancient religions (no longer practiced) tend to be romanticized by modern popular culture... For example, we tend to view the Druids as being sort of ancient Hippies, when in fact they had an incredibly brutal and violent belief system, including human sacrifice.

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11-03-2014, 03:19 PM
RE: Why is religious scripture(s) believed to be real, but not...
(11-03-2014 02:37 PM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  other old(er) fictional stories?

What made the religious scriptures appealing in that sense, while other fictional stories of the time were always understood to be fiction or myth?

What distinguished religious scriptures from other such works of literature?

In reality, nothing separates religious texts for other shitty writings at the time, aside from them being made specifically to play off of and build upon older religions for the sake of making a following.

And people believe one is fact and the other fiction because of indoctrination and social conditioning.

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11-03-2014, 03:19 PM
RE: Why is religious scripture(s) believed to be real, but not...
Because many of the stories have a grain of "could be true" in them. They're also written in such a way that questioning their veracity is wrong. indoctrination for centuries also plays a strong role. When the Romans switched from many gods to just one, they allowed people to keep their holidays and changed the purpose of them for their dety of choice. It's completely possible the people didn't believe this in the beginning but after a few generations, their grandchildren certainly began really believing.

Most cultures, for example, have a "flood myth," especially if the culture was in an area prone to flooding.

The bibical account of Noah, is meant to be heroic and other tales predate the bibical story, like the Epic of Gilgamesh.

Moses too was riffed from older myths. Most Christian types don't know about this because they're not studied because if they do some believe they will perish in hell.


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11-03-2014, 05:14 PM
RE: Why is religious scripture(s) believed to be real, but not...
(11-03-2014 02:54 PM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  
(11-03-2014 02:52 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  Because ignorant fucktards insist that they are true and credulous fucktards like you drink the Kool-Aid.

But why do they think one fictional story is true over another?

Because they were told that as children. Immature minds accept what adults tell them.

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11-03-2014, 05:18 PM
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(11-03-2014 05:14 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(11-03-2014 02:54 PM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  But why do they think one fictional story is true over another?

Because they were told that as children. Immature minds accept what adults tell them.

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11-03-2014, 05:18 PM
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(11-03-2014 05:14 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(11-03-2014 02:54 PM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  But why do they think one fictional story is true over another?

Because they were told that as children. Immature minds accept what adults tell them.

Oh Chas, you have revealed your ignorance and irrationality here. Children are far from immature. They are intuitive, understanding and we can learn alot from them. Youth can not know how age thinks and feels. But old men are guilty if they forget what it was to be young.

You have revealed how little you really know, Chas. I would advise you to please think before posting because it only makes you look silly. You have been caught with your pants down, Chas, and I didn't want that to happen.

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11-03-2014, 05:20 PM
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(11-03-2014 05:18 PM)Miss Meng Wrote:  ...
Children are far from immature.
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Classic!

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11-03-2014, 05:47 PM
RE: Why is religious scripture(s) believed to be real, but not...
(11-03-2014 02:37 PM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  other old(er) fictional stories?

What made the religious scriptures appealing in that sense, while other fictional stories of the time were always understood to be fiction or myth?

What distinguished religious scriptures from other such works of literature?

This has a lot to do with it getting traction, initially:

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11-03-2014, 05:55 PM
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(11-03-2014 05:18 PM)Miss Meng Wrote:  You have been caught with your pants down, Chas, and I didn't want that to happen.

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11-03-2014, 06:02 PM
RE: Why is religious scripture(s) believed to be real, but not...
(11-03-2014 02:37 PM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  other old(er) fictional stories?

What made the religious scriptures appealing in that sense, while other fictional stories of the time were always understood to be fiction or myth?

What distinguished religious scriptures from other such works of literature?

The answer is simple.
Myth is filled with emotion and can be captivating - just read the Noach story or watch the film coming out soon. Watch superman, Thor or some action packed myth story.


Compare this to studying geology or rocks and sweeping the dust for fossils.

There is your answer.

Imagine a film of daily rock sweeping and finding virtually nothing...and then occasionally bumping into some interesting fossils. This can be exhausting and would put most people off into boredom land.

Saying that - today there are documentaries which can make science exciting.
However even the documentaries require some charismatic or hot presenter (I'm thinking of Alice Roberts documentaries on the human story and evolution.... Drooling Heart )

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