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11-08-2012, 06:16 PM
Why liberal is a 4 letter word
Finally gaining a better understanding of why conservatives think liberal is a 4 letter word (aside from their contempt for academics and thought - jk)

http://seanasbury.wordpress.com/2012/08/...tter-word/

Conservapedia.com - it's like an alternate reality...

“A liberal is someone who favors censorship of Christianity plus increased government spending and power, as in ObamaCare. Increasingly liberals side with the homosexual agenda, including same-sex marriage. Many liberals favor a welfare state where people receive endless entitlements without working. Liberals are often anti-Christian, or otherwise disagree with moral or social principles held by many American Christians. The liberal ideology has worsened over the years and degenerated into economically delusional views and intolerant ideology. Some liberals simply support, in knee-jerk fashion, the opposite of conservative principles without having any meaningful values of their own.”

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11-08-2012, 06:21 PM
RE: Why liberal is a 4 letter word
As a recovering conservative, I have to find this especially laughable...

Many liberals favor a welfare state where people receive endless entitlements without working.

I don't think I ever believed that Liberals wanted this. They do support welfare for the poor, but I don't think anyone I hung out with ever thought it was part of the Liberal agenda to create a place where no one has to work. Unsure

All the other parts of the diatribe, though...spot on. Thumbsup

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11-08-2012, 06:25 PM
RE: Why liberal is a 4 letter word
"liberal" is not 4 letter word.
"free" is.

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11-08-2012, 06:31 PM
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(11-08-2012 06:25 PM)DLJ Wrote:  "liberal" is not 4 letter word.
"free" is.

That's a bit deep for 1:30am on a Sunday morning.

And I realise that I'm referring to my time, not yours. Just be thankful... my original reply read "That's a bit deep for DLJ."
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11-08-2012, 06:33 PM
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(11-08-2012 06:31 PM)Red Celt Wrote:  
(11-08-2012 06:25 PM)DLJ Wrote:  "liberal" is not 4 letter word.
"free" is.

That's a bit deep for 1:30am on a Sunday morning.

And I realise that I'm referring to my time, not yours. Just be thankful... my original reply read "That's a bit deep for DLJ."

Well I thought I was deep until I encountered HoC. Now I realise that I have hidden shallows.
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11-08-2012, 07:22 PM (This post was last modified: 11-08-2012 10:14 PM by Free Thought.)
RE: Why liberal is a 4 letter word
*Excl Warning! Warning! Ignorance Approaching! Excl*

I don't understand the concepts of Liberals, Democrats, Republicans , Conservatives or Whatever-have-you's, especially in a totally political sense. And even more especially in an American political sense.

To be honest I used to associated the words with Values; Liberty, Democracy etcetera. Later with National political status; Democratic, Republic, Communist (that kind of crap) but I doubt either is correct... Have I been putting too much interpretation in to it? Is it just a method of allotting a person into a specific group for convenience sake? ... and / or identifying oneself with a specific group for convenience sake.

Must... Learn...

*Excl Danger Passed! Excl*

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11-08-2012, 08:51 PM
RE: Why liberal is a 4 letter word
(11-08-2012 07:22 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  *Excl Warning! Warning! Ignorance Approaching! Excl*

I don't understand the concepts of Liberals, Democrats, Republicans , Conservatives or Whatever-have-you's, especially in a totally political sense. And even more especially in an American political sense.

To be honest I used to associated the words with Values; Liberty, Democracy etcetera. Later with National political status; Democratic, Republic, Communist (that kind of crap) but I doubt either is correct... Have I been putting too much interpretation in to it? Is it just a method of allotting a person into a specific group for convenience sake?

Must... Learn...

*Excl Danger Passed! Excl*

... and / or identifying oneself with a specific group for convenience sake.

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11-08-2012, 09:01 PM
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(11-08-2012 07:22 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  *Excl Warning! Warning! Ignorance Approaching! Excl*

I don't understand the concepts of Liberals, Democrats, Republicans , Conservatives or Whatever-have-you's, especially in a totally political sense. And even more especially in an American political sense.

To be honest I used to associated the words with Values; Liberty, Democracy etcetera. Later with National political status; Democratic, Republic, Communist (that kind of crap) but I doubt either is correct... Have I been putting too much interpretation in to it? Is it just a method of allotting a person into a specific group for convenience sake?

Must... Learn...

*Excl Danger Passed! Excl*

Great points.
One problem is that the terms keep shifting meaning.
A liberal democrat in 1900 would now be a libertarian.
Liberals and socialists once opposed each other, now I can't tell them apart, except that the socialist want to be called liberals. Go figure?
The only way to go is to take each issue and make an independent decision on what you think is right. Do your homework and be able to defend why you believe something.
As soon as I detect a bumper sticker liberal / conservative I'm just not interested in anything they have to say.
If you have a political bumper sticker on your car you're a mindless asshole. It's just that simple.

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11-08-2012, 10:13 PM
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Thomas, that makes sense, and I promise you I you won't find those kinds of stickers on my car! Mostly 'cause I don't have one! Wait... would "They'll just fuck things up one way or another!" count?

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11-08-2012, 11:19 PM
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Nice blog post, Sean. My aim is to make sure everyone understands and appreciates liberal don't mean pussy. I'll stand by that and I ain't even an anti-theist. But I am tempted, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry. Know I don't.

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