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26-03-2012, 01:56 PM
RE: Wisconsin on the march to ban divorce... even in abuse
(26-03-2012 01:52 PM)N.E.OhioAtheist Wrote:  The GOP tells everyone they want less government intruding, But want to control every part of a woman's sex life and health issues. Talk about NAZI's



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26-03-2012, 02:02 PM
RE: Wisconsin on the march to ban divorce... even in abuse
(26-03-2012 01:56 PM)germanyt Wrote:  
(26-03-2012 01:52 PM)N.E.OhioAtheist Wrote:  The GOP tells everyone they want less government intruding, But want to control every part of a woman's sex life and health issues. Talk about NAZI's
Last I checked he is anti abortion!! so yes he is going right along with the nutters. Check his voting record.


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26-03-2012, 02:16 PM (This post was last modified: 26-03-2012 02:24 PM by germanyt.)
RE: Wisconsin on the march to ban divorce... even in abuse
(26-03-2012 02:02 PM)N.E.OhioAtheist Wrote:  
(26-03-2012 01:56 PM)germanyt Wrote:  Last I checked he is anti abortion!! so yes he is going right along with the nutters. Check his voting record.


Not Dr. Paul.





Ron Paul has absolutely no interest in banning abortion. Even if he did he wouldn't care to do it at the federal level.




[list]
[*]Right to privacy is explicit, but not for contraception. (Jan 2012)
[*]More laws don't solve problems on abortion. (Sep 2011)
[*]Efforts to fund abortion ranks among stupidest policies. (Apr 2011)
[*]Deregulate the adoption market. (Apr 2011)
[*]Abortion laws should be a state-level choice. (Apr 2011)
[*]Abortion causes inconsistent moral basis for value of life. (Apr 2011)
[*]Day-after pill allows individual moral choice. (Apr 2011)
[*]Abortion is murder. (Apr 2008)
[*]Roe v. Wade decision was harmful to the Constitution. (Apr 2008)
[*]Define life at conception in law, as scientific statement. (Feb 2008)
[*]Protecting the life of the unborn is protecting liberty. (Feb 2008)
[*]Get the federal government out of abortion decision. (Nov 2007)
[*]Delivered 4000 babies; & assuredly life begins at conception. (Sep 2007)
[*]Nominate only judges who refuse to legislate from the bench. (Sep 2007)
[*]Save “snowflake babies”: no experiments on frozen embryos. (Sep 2007)
[*]No tax funding for organizations that promote abortion. (Sep 2007)
[*]Embryonic stem cell programs not constitutionally authorized. (May 2007)
Voting+Sponsorships
[*]Sanctity of Life Act: remove federal jurisdiction. (Sep 2007)
[*]Voted YES on banning federal health coverage that includes abortion. (May 2011)
[*]Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)
[*]Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
[*]Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)
[*]Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)
[*]Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother’s life. (Oct 2003)
[*]Voted NO on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)
[*]Voted YES on funding for health providers who don't provide abortion info. (Sep 2002)
[*]Voted YES on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001)
[*]Voted NO on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)
[*]Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortions. (Apr 2000)
[*]Voted NO on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)
[*]No federal funding of abortion, and pro-life. (Dec 2000)
[*]Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)
[*]Rated 56% by the NRLC, indicating a mixed record on abortion. (Dec 2006)
[*]Bar funding for abortion under federal Obamacare plans. (Jul 2010)
[*]Prohibit federal funding for abortion. (May 2011)
[*]Prohibit federal funding to groups like Planned Parenthood. (Jan 2011)
[*]Supports the Pro-life Presidential Leadership Pledge. (Jan 2012)
[*]Report on Medicaid payments to abortion providers. (Apr 2009)


Not once has he introduced an abortion, contraception, or stem cell bill. He is a conservative congressman from Texas who is responsible to his constituents. Now, he did sign the pro live presidential pledge. But the only problem you should really have with that is that it states that he should appoint pro life leaders to departments of the government he will likely dismantle anyway. That and remove federal funding of planned parenthood. But he'd of done that anyway from a fiscal standpoint.

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26-03-2012, 06:19 PM
RE: Wisconsin on the march to ban divorce... even in abuse
When you bring things like this up to a theist as a reason for us being vocal and watching what they are up too, they always say its the odd case...REALLY! then why is it every time we turn around they are trying to inflict their little delusion on everyone else.

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26-03-2012, 08:35 PM
RE: Wisconsin on the march to ban divorce... even in abuse
(26-03-2012 06:19 PM)KidCharlemagne1962 Wrote:  When you bring things like this up to a theist as a reason for us being vocal and watching what they are up too, they always say its the odd case...REALLY! then why is it every time we turn around they are trying to inflict their little delusion on everyone else.
Oh, that reminds me of a darkantics video... I'm going to post that as a new thread though.

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26-03-2012, 08:42 PM (This post was last modified: 26-03-2012 08:45 PM by Antirepublican.)
RE: Wisconsin on the march to ban divorce... even in abuse
(26-03-2012 02:16 PM)germanyt Wrote:  Ron Paul has absolutely no interest in banning abortion. Even if he did he wouldn't care to do it at the federal level.



  • Right to privacy is explicit, but not for contraception. (Jan 2012)
  • More laws don't solve problems on abortion. (Sep 2011)
  • Efforts to fund abortion ranks among stupidest policies. (Apr 2011)
  • Deregulate the adoption market. (Apr 2011)
  • Abortion laws should be a state-level choice. (Apr 2011)
  • Abortion causes inconsistent moral basis for value of life. (Apr 2011)
  • Day-after pill allows individual moral choice. (Apr 2011)
  • Abortion is murder. (Apr 2008)
  • Roe v. Wade decision was harmful to the Constitution. (Apr 2008)
  • Define life at conception in law, as scientific statement. (Feb 2008)
  • Protecting the life of the unborn is protecting liberty. (Feb 2008)
  • Get the federal government out of abortion decision. (Nov 2007)
  • Delivered 4000 babies; & assuredly life begins at conception. (Sep 2007)
  • Nominate only judges who refuse to legislate from the bench. (Sep 2007)
  • Save “snowflake babies”: no experiments on frozen embryos. (Sep 2007)
  • No tax funding for organizations that promote abortion. (Sep 2007)
  • Embryonic stem cell programs not constitutionally authorized. (May 2007)
    Voting+Sponsorships
  • Sanctity of Life Act: remove federal jurisdiction. (Sep 2007)
  • Voted YES on banning federal health coverage that includes abortion. (May 2011)
  • Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)
  • Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
  • Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)
  • Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)
  • Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother’s life. (Oct 2003)
  • Voted NO on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)
  • Voted YES on funding for health providers who don't provide abortion info. (Sep 2002)
  • Voted YES on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001)
  • Voted NO on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)
  • Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortions. (Apr 2000)
  • Voted NO on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)
  • No federal funding of abortion, and pro-life. (Dec 2000)
  • Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)
  • Rated 56% by the NRLC, indicating a mixed record on abortion. (Dec 2006)
  • Bar funding for abortion under federal Obamacare plans. (Jul 2010)
  • Prohibit federal funding for abortion. (May 2011)
  • Prohibit federal funding to groups like Planned Parenthood. (Jan 2011)
  • Supports the Pro-life Presidential Leadership Pledge. (Jan 2012)
  • Report on Medicaid payments to abortion providers. (Apr 2009)


    Not once has he introduced an abortion, contraception, or stem cell bill. He is a conservative congressman from Texas who is responsible to his constituents. Now, he did sign the pro live presidential pledge. But the only problem you should really have with that is that it states that he should appoint pro life leaders to departments of the government he will likely dismantle anyway. That and remove federal funding of planned parenthood. But he'd of done that anyway from a fiscal standpoint.

Of course he does. He just wants to hand over all the power to the individual states, and let them ban it that way. Ron Paul must have been taught with one of those Texas history books that omit various historical facts, like the civil war in this case. This is the United States of American, not the fifty independent states of America.

As my favorite comedian, Bill Maher, says "you are inside the bubble".



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28-03-2012, 05:29 AM
RE: Wisconsin on the march to ban divorce... even in abuse
SMH!!! I imagine crime is going to rise like crazy if you force people to remained married. Whether it be abuse or simply because they no longer want to stay in a relationship. What the fuck are these idiots thinking?
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28-03-2012, 05:37 AM
RE: Wisconsin on the march to ban divorce... even in abuse
germanyt,

Do you get commission for every time you promote Ron Paul?

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28-03-2012, 06:17 AM
RE: Wisconsin on the march to ban divorce... even in abuse
(28-03-2012 05:29 AM)Jodienda76 Wrote:  SMH!!! I imagine crime is going to rise like crazy if you force people to remained married. Whether it be abuse or simply because they no longer want to stay in a relationship. What the fuck are these idiots thinking?
Wait, you actually believe they think first? Joking. Of course they think, but it's probably that thinking in a bubble of what they see as correct. Everything else is controlled by demons or something. Like women. They probably think women who have their own opinions are possessed by the devil or something. The worst part is that they probably have the mindset that if a husband beats his wife then she probably deserved it. Probably because they do it and make those kind of excuses.

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28-03-2012, 08:13 AM (This post was last modified: 28-03-2012 08:18 AM by germanyt.)
RE: Wisconsin on the march to ban divorce... even in abuse
(26-03-2012 08:42 PM)Antirepublican Wrote:  Of course he does. He just wants to hand over all the power to the individual states, and let them ban it that way. Ron Paul must have been taught with one of those Texas history books that omit various historical facts, like the civil war in this case. This is the United States of American, not the fifty independent states of America.



No he doesn't. But even if he did we had this lawsuit called Roe vs Wade. Read the transcripts if you're interested. And yes it is the independant states. That's why there are states and we aren't just one big state called America.

Quote:Supreme Court decision
Harry Blackmun wrote the Court’s opinion.The Court issued its decision on January 22, 1973, with a 7-to-2 majority vote in favor of Roe. Burger and Douglas' concurring opinions and White's dissenting opinion were issued with along with the Court's opinion in Doe v. Bolton (announced on the same day as Roe v. Wade). The Court deemed abortion a fundamental right under the United States Constitution, thereby subjecting all laws attempting to restrict it to the standard of strict scrutiny.

And your buddy Maher (I'm a fan too) is a huge Ron Paul fan.


As for the Wisconsin issue. Need not worry. The guy is a crack pot but there is absolutely no way something like this would pass. This guy will be lucky if he has a job come election time.

(28-03-2012 05:37 AM)Hughsie Wrote:  germanyt,

Do you get commission for every time you promote Ron Paul?

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