Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Punished
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05-04-2016, 04:59 PM
RE: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Punished
(05-04-2016 04:42 PM)Stevil Wrote:  
(05-04-2016 04:19 PM)Dom Wrote:  No, they are capable of developing into life. Until then they are parasitic.
Parasites are alive.

Although i don't consider a foetus to be a parasite. But there you go.

What term would you give it instead? Symbiotic?

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05-04-2016, 05:09 PM
RE: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Punished
(05-04-2016 04:42 PM)Stevil Wrote:  
(05-04-2016 04:19 PM)Dom Wrote:  No, they are capable of developing into life. Until then they are parasitic.
Parasites are alive.

Although i don't consider a foetus to be a parasite. But there you go.

I don't consider a foetus to be a person until viable. But there you go.

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05-04-2016, 05:19 PM
RE: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Punished
(05-04-2016 04:42 PM)Stevil Wrote:  
(05-04-2016 04:19 PM)Dom Wrote:  No, they are capable of developing into life. Until then they are parasitic.
Parasites are alive.

Although i don't consider a foetus to be a parasite. But there you go.

Doesn't matter what you call it, if it's not viable, it cannot be alive.

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05-04-2016, 05:31 PM
RE: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Punished
(05-04-2016 04:59 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(05-04-2016 04:42 PM)Stevil Wrote:  Parasites are alive.

Although i don't consider a foetus to be a parasite. But there you go.

What term would you give it instead? Symbiotic?
Offspring, or a developing foetus.
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05-04-2016, 06:08 PM
RE: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Punished
(05-04-2016 05:31 PM)Stevil Wrote:  
(05-04-2016 04:59 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  What term would you give it instead? Symbiotic?
Offspring, or a developing foetus.

Or developing life..... Tongue

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05-04-2016, 07:01 PM
RE: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Punished
(05-04-2016 06:08 PM)Dom Wrote:  
(05-04-2016 05:31 PM)Stevil Wrote:  Offspring, or a developing foetus.

Or developing life..... Tongue
The continued development of a lifeform.
We continue developing right up until the day we die.
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05-04-2016, 07:19 PM
RE: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Punished
(05-04-2016 07:01 PM)Stevil Wrote:  
(05-04-2016 06:08 PM)Dom Wrote:  Or developing life..... Tongue
The continued development of a lifeform.
We continue developing right up until the day we die.

It is not possible to be not viable and alive at the same time. You gots to make your picks, like it or not.

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05-04-2016, 07:26 PM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2016 07:32 PM by Dark Light.)
RE: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Punished
(05-04-2016 04:59 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(05-04-2016 04:42 PM)Stevil Wrote:  Parasites are alive.

Although i don't consider a foetus to be a parasite. But there you go.

What term would you give it instead? Symbiotic?

For many of the glowing mothers to be I would say yes. I would say my wife fell under that category as well. She was deliriously happy throughout her pregnancy.

For those engaging in the parasite side debate though I'd recommend reading this and/or this.

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05-04-2016, 07:39 PM
RE: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Punished
(05-04-2016 04:59 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(05-04-2016 04:42 PM)Stevil Wrote:  Parasites are alive.

Although i don't consider a foetus to be a parasite. But there you go.

What term would you give it instead? Symbiotic?

No, not symbiotic. The relationship is not mutually beneficial regardless how her hormones make her feel (many animals inject euphoric or numbing agents that cause their victims to feel nothing while sucking their life away). The fetus leeches off the female and it actually harms her body in a variety of ways, not improves it.

Parasitic is exactly what the fetus is. It lives off the female, leeching nutrients from her body and causing a variety of harm, sometimes in small amounts but often quite substantial and even can cause major illnesses and death.

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05-04-2016, 09:15 PM
RE: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Punished
(05-04-2016 07:19 PM)Dom Wrote:  It is not possible to be not viable and alive at the same time. You gots to make your picks, like it or not.
I don't understand this statement.
When we say that a 10 week old fetus is not viable, we mean that it is not viable to survive if we remove it from the woman's womb.
It has a heart beat, it has a functioning brain, it has it's own DNA, it is growing and moving. If that's not alive then, wow, I don't seem to know what alive means.
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