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30-01-2015, 05:04 PM
RE: Words I want to remember
(30-01-2015 04:40 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(30-01-2015 12:13 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  They deliver thoughts of reason like a nail gun to the testicles!

You're just not quite right in the head. No

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03-02-2015, 08:59 PM
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(03-02-2015 08:49 PM)unfogged Wrote:  The price of theism is giving up intellectual honesty for easy answers.

Bowing

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06-02-2015, 10:36 AM
RE: Words I want to remember
(08-03-2012 02:58 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  There's a bunch of sigs around here I want an easy place to find and record 'cause they can change on the member's whim.

"It's all in your head, because there is no other place it could be." - Talladega Tom
Um, yup.

"Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. --John 14:1" - Egor Coming from Egor who is making a quixotic, narcissistic attempt to invent and disseminate his own metaphysics, that is like some seriously blatently ballsy proselytization. So kudos for that. [Image: bravo-7466.gif] ... On the flip side we have Bob 1:1, "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in ye, believe also in we." ... Of course Bob's always had his own problems getting past the premise so there ain't no Bob 1:2. Wink

There was another one I saw today which went something like

"I wasn't ... until I was.
I am ... until I'm not." - free2011
"Birth, copulation, and death."

EDIT: Found it. It's from free2011.



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06-02-2015, 10:40 AM
RE: Words I want to remember
unfogged Wrote:
The price of theism is giving up intellectual honesty for easy answers. QUOTE



Either Nothing created our personal Universe from nothing, or,
Someone created our personal Universe from nothing. Looking at the after-effects, which would seem more intellectually honest ?
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06-02-2015, 11:24 AM
RE: Words I want to remember
(06-02-2015 10:40 AM)QuasiAtheist Wrote:  
unfogged Wrote:The price of theism is giving up intellectual honesty for easy answers.

Either Nothing created our personal Universe from nothing, or,
Someone created our personal Universe from nothing. Looking at the after-effects, which would seem more intellectually honest ?

Why "someone"? That's assuming the conclusion as part of the premise.
Why assume that our universe isn't the result of whatever happened to a previous universe or wasn't caused by something in another universe? Why assume that it had to be creation ex nihilo? Why assume we know enough to determine that "a universe from nothing" and "god" are the only 2 possible answers?

We don't know how our universe formed, at least not yet. If you just jump to "had to be a god" then you aren't being honest, you are just covering up an area of ignorance with a guess.

This isn't the right place to continue the discussion though. If you wish to pursue it I suggest starting a new thread.

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06-02-2015, 11:45 AM
RE: Words I want to remember
(06-02-2015 11:24 AM)unfogged Wrote:  
(06-02-2015 10:40 AM)QuasiAtheist Wrote:  Either Nothing created our personal Universe from nothing, or,
Someone created our personal Universe from nothing. Looking at the after-effects, which would seem more intellectually honest ?

Why "someone"? That's assuming the conclusion as part of the premise.
Why assume that our universe isn't the result of whatever happened to a previous universe or wasn't caused by something in another universe? Why assume that it had to be creation ex nihilo? Why assume we know enough to determine that "a universe from nothing" and "god" are the only 2 possible answers?

We don't know how our universe formed, at least not yet. If you just jump to "had to be a god" then you aren't being honest, you are just covering up an area of ignorance with a guess.

This isn't the right place to continue the discussion though. If you wish to pursue it I suggest starting a new thread.

Because personal and intelligent after-effects by way of specified complexity ONLY come from a Being with a Mind, Will, and ability to pull it all off. The multiverse theory is just plain speculation and doesn't deal with the reality we have ; furthermore, pure blind chance is never an instrument that can give us animate from the inaminate and if One functioning Universe with personal entities require a personal cause then so do additional universes . Lastly, where did the FIRST universe come from ?!

Its either God or Nothing as the Cause because it wasn't Matter since matter didn't exist in the very beginning --- it too was created .

We DO know what kind of Cause would have to make our Universe by considering the effects left over from the creation event. , using scientific scrutiny. Even many agnostic / atheist Cosmologists are identifying the first Cause as being of intelligence. You don't have a personal problem if God exists do you ?

Im always willing to pursue such weighty issues in the correct format and would welcome a new thread .
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06-02-2015, 12:14 PM
RE: Words I want to remember
(06-02-2015 11:45 AM)QuasiAtheist Wrote:  
(06-02-2015 11:24 AM)unfogged Wrote:  Why "someone"? That's assuming the conclusion as part of the premise.
Why assume that our universe isn't the result of whatever happened to a previous universe or wasn't caused by something in another universe? Why assume that it had to be creation ex nihilo? Why assume we know enough to determine that "a universe from nothing" and "god" are the only 2 possible answers?

We don't know how our universe formed, at least not yet. If you just jump to "had to be a god" then you aren't being honest, you are just covering up an area of ignorance with a guess.

This isn't the right place to continue the discussion though. If you wish to pursue it I suggest starting a new thread.

Because personal and intelligent after-effects by way of specified complexity ONLY come from a Being with a Mind, Will, and ability to pull it all off. The multiverse theory is just plain speculation and doesn't deal with the reality we have ; furthermore, pure blind chance is never an instrument that can give us animate from the inaminate and if One functioning Universe with personal entities require a personal cause then so do additional universes . Lastly, where did the FIRST universe come from ?!

Its either God or Nothing as the Cause because it wasn't Matter since matter didn't exist in the very beginning --- it too was created .

We DO know what kind of Cause would have to make our Universe by considering the effects left over from the creation event. , using scientific scrutiny. Even many agnostic / atheist Cosmologists are identifying the first Cause as being of intelligence. You don't have a personal problem if God exists do you ?

Im always willing to pursue such weighty issues in the correct format and would welcome a new thread .

Dude, really, make a new thread. This doesn't belong here.
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06-02-2015, 07:43 PM
RE: Words I want to remember
"You can hope your family will examine the evidence and satisfy themselves that the science is sound and that they'll be comforted to know your energy's still around. According to the law of the conservation of energy, not a bit of you is gone; you're just less orderly. Amen."


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08-02-2015, 08:26 PM
RE: Words I want to remember
(08-02-2015 11:58 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Given that disassociatives have been a staple of mine of decades, I'm going with the latter. Disassociation is easy. It's reattachment that's the bitch.

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10-02-2015, 12:49 AM
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(10-02-2015 12:35 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  ...
thinky-thinky bits
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tickled my funny buds for some reason Smile

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