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04-04-2013, 10:58 AM
Worker Owned Factories
Here is a two part article about such a factory in Mexico, completely owned and ran by the workers.

Part 1. http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/04/03/a...in-mexico/
Part 2. http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/04/04/c...ctory-run/

Why shouldn't this exist all over the world? Why shouldn't human beings be able to control, run and benefit from their own labor instead of having a middle man in private ownership of corporations to siphon off profits?
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04-04-2013, 11:04 AM
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because it's communism and communism is bad m'kay?

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04-04-2013, 11:10 AM
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(04-04-2013 10:58 AM)I and I Wrote:  Here is a two part article about such a factory in Mexico, completely owned and ran by the workers.

Part 1. http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/04/03/a...in-mexico/
Part 2. http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/04/04/c...ctory-run/

Why shouldn't this exist all over the world? Why shouldn't human beings be able to control, run and benefit from their own labor instead of having a middle man in private ownership of corporations to siphon off profits?

But there are costs for the country to maintain the environment (a joke of the Mexican government, especially dealing with the drug dealers). And I guess there would be some arguments about how many shares one is allowed to have...

Anyway it is good for the working class. Own the factory together. Work together for themselves. Share the burden of taxes. Good.

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04-04-2013, 11:15 AM
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(04-04-2013 10:58 AM)I and I Wrote:  Here is a two part article about such a factory in Mexico, completely owned and ran by the workers.

Part 1. http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/04/03/a...in-mexico/
Part 2. http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/04/04/c...ctory-run/

Why shouldn't this exist all over the world? Why shouldn't human beings be able to control, run and benefit from their own labor instead of having a middle man in private ownership of corporations to siphon off profits?


It's a great idea and there should be more of it.

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04-04-2013, 11:24 AM
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(04-04-2013 11:15 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(04-04-2013 10:58 AM)I and I Wrote:  Here is a two part article about such a factory in Mexico, completely owned and ran by the workers.

Part 1. http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/04/03/a...in-mexico/
Part 2. http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/04/04/c...ctory-run/

Why shouldn't this exist all over the world? Why shouldn't human beings be able to control, run and benefit from their own labor instead of having a middle man in private ownership of corporations to siphon off profits?


It's a great idea and there should be more of it.

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04-04-2013, 11:26 AM
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(04-04-2013 11:24 AM)I and I Wrote:  
(04-04-2013 11:15 AM)Chas Wrote:  It's a great idea and there should be more of it.

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Collectivism vs communism in 1 a state mandates what goes the other everyone works together for the betterment of all. Stock options have long been known to be the best incentive towards higher quality and worker production when given a stake in the results the effort put in is always much higher than an hourly wage employee.

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04-04-2013, 11:33 AM
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(04-04-2013 11:26 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(04-04-2013 11:24 AM)I and I Wrote:  Blink


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Collectivism vs communism in 1 a state mandates what goes the other everyone works together for the betterment of all. Stock options have long been known to be the best incentive towards higher quality and worker production when given a stake in the results the effort put in is always much higher than an hourly wage employee.


No, in communism the workers put in place a political/legal/economic structure to protect their worker owned factories and themselves from capitalist influence.

Stock options are not a safe investment nor are they a way for workers to run and own their business in the way that is talked about in the article.
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04-04-2013, 11:39 AM
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(04-04-2013 11:33 AM)I and I Wrote:  
(04-04-2013 11:26 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Collectivism vs communism in 1 a state mandates what goes the other everyone works together for the betterment of all. Stock options have long been known to be the best incentive towards higher quality and worker production when given a stake in the results the effort put in is always much higher than an hourly wage employee.


No, in communism the workers put in place a political/legal/economic structure to protect their worker owned factories and themselves from capitalist influence.

Stock options are not a safe investment nor are they a way for workers to run and own their business in the way that is talked about in the article.


There is no change required to the political system in the U.S. for there to be more worker-owned businesses.

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04-04-2013, 11:47 AM
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There are employee owned companies in the US. Not set up quite the same way, but this is not really a hugely novel idea.

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04-04-2013, 11:48 AM
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(04-04-2013 11:33 AM)I and I Wrote:  
(04-04-2013 11:26 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Collectivism vs communism in 1 a state mandates what goes the other everyone works together for the betterment of all. Stock options have long been known to be the best incentive towards higher quality and worker production when given a stake in the results the effort put in is always much higher than an hourly wage employee.


No, in communism the workers put in place a political/legal/economic structure to protect their worker owned factories and themselves from capitalist influence.

Stock options are not a safe investment nor are they a way for workers to run and own their business in the way that is talked about in the article.

I should have separated those 2 statements. I was making a larger point in that the best way to motivate anyone is to give them a share in the net results. Practical Communism is totalitarian in nature and does nothing to "protect workers from capitalist influence" see China, theoretical communism wouldn't require the workers to own anything as everything already belongs to the collective.

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