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20-09-2016, 05:39 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(20-09-2016 05:35 PM)Dom Wrote:  
(20-09-2016 04:52 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Goddam. And here I thought I was God.

There are quite a few of them. Tongue It's a more common disorder than you think. Another characteristic is lawsuits - revenge is often taken with lawsuits. When you see a person who files lots of frivolous lawsuits, that's a red light. The bragging, lying, and the contrast between sweetness and being ice cold are other red lights. In most cases, the personality is quite strong and often they are "bosses". But physically they are big cowards. The ones who don't have the cowardice, the step into psychopathy has happened. It is related.

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20-09-2016, 05:42 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(20-09-2016 05:39 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(20-09-2016 05:35 PM)Dom Wrote:  There are quite a few of them. Tongue It's a more common disorder than you think. Another characteristic is lawsuits - revenge is often taken with lawsuits. When you see a person who files lots of frivolous lawsuits, that's a red light. The bragging, lying, and the contrast between sweetness and being ice cold are other red lights. In most cases, the personality is quite strong and often they are "bosses". But physically they are big cowards. The ones who don't have the cowardice, the step into psychopathy has happened. It is related.

I don't wanna be God no more. Sad

I herewith de-godificate you! Tongue

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20-09-2016, 07:39 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(20-09-2016 04:13 PM)Dom Wrote:  In any case, I see Trump as a ticking bomb. He is going to go off, we just don't know when.

November 4th.
Hopefully it can be disarmed by the populace but I am not convinced they’ll know which wire to cut first, the red or the black.

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21-09-2016, 06:36 AM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(20-09-2016 04:13 PM)Dom Wrote:  
(20-09-2016 02:54 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  it is hard to seriously argue that a man who would lead a racist conspiracy theory and then try to blame his opponent is fit to be president. Trump, like a small child caught misbehaving, simply denies the evidence or blames someone else or lashes out in anger.

Textbook malignant narcissist. See, the disorder is caused in early development, or at least that is the prevailing theory (please don't ask for a quote, the topic is a quagmire and quotes are buried in university papers). It occurs at the stage where the infant learns the distinction between "you" and "me". This distinction is never made, there is only a "me". The person grows up seeing the world as a theater with him/her as real person and the rest puppets that need to be manipulated to cater to "me". Empathy and related reactions are missing. Early on the child learns to mirror these emotions because manipulating works so much better that way. And now mirroring becomes a good choice. When you watch Trump - whatever someone accuses him of, he accuses them of the same thing. Someone says he is unfit for presidency - he throws it back at Hillary. Someone says he is crooked - bang, it's now crooked Hilary. These things become the cornerstone of his strategy - he repeats them over and over until everyone associates them with his opponent. They become a nick name.

Then there is the bragging - s/he is the best, knows the best, has the best and so on.

Lashing out in anger is the "malignant" part. There are narcissists that are conceited but otherwise ok. Those are not malignant.

Malignant narcissists trade in a currency - called narcissistic supply. The narcissist operates in a likeable fashion as long as the "supply" keeps flowing - people admire him/her. If the supply gets cut off, s/he becomes either a petulant child, just makes up outrageous lies (that happens constantly, there are no lies in their minds) or gets very angry.

My fear, and the reason why I think a Trump presidency needs to be avoided at all cost, is this disorder. He is a text book case.

You can believe what I just wrote or not. My research may be outdated and a lot of gaps may have been filled in by now. I have had cause to research this very carefully over a long period of time, and I won't get into why, nor will I venture out into that territory to gather links for you - I don't trust that my PTSD will stay at bay if I do. Some things are better left alone.

In any case, I see Trump as a ticking bomb. He is going to go off, we just don't know when.

So, you think Clinton is fit to fill that position? She is just as bad as he is, just extremely good at lying. She is doing all she can to sell our country to the highest bidders.
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21-09-2016, 07:26 AM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(21-09-2016 06:36 AM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  
(20-09-2016 04:13 PM)Dom Wrote:  Textbook malignant narcissist. See, the disorder is caused in early development, or at least that is the prevailing theory (please don't ask for a quote, the topic is a quagmire and quotes are buried in university papers). It occurs at the stage where the infant learns the distinction between "you" and "me". This distinction is never made, there is only a "me". The person grows up seeing the world as a theater with him/her as real person and the rest puppets that need to be manipulated to cater to "me". Empathy and related reactions are missing. Early on the child learns to mirror these emotions because manipulating works so much better that way. And now mirroring becomes a good choice. When you watch Trump - whatever someone accuses him of, he accuses them of the same thing. Someone says he is unfit for presidency - he throws it back at Hillary. Someone says he is crooked - bang, it's now crooked Hilary. These things become the cornerstone of his strategy - he repeats them over and over until everyone associates them with his opponent. They become a nick name.

Then there is the bragging - s/he is the best, knows the best, has the best and so on.

Lashing out in anger is the "malignant" part. There are narcissists that are conceited but otherwise ok. Those are not malignant.

Malignant narcissists trade in a currency - called narcissistic supply. The narcissist operates in a likeable fashion as long as the "supply" keeps flowing - people admire him/her. If the supply gets cut off, s/he becomes either a petulant child, just makes up outrageous lies (that happens constantly, there are no lies in their minds) or gets very angry.

My fear, and the reason why I think a Trump presidency needs to be avoided at all cost, is this disorder. He is a text book case.

You can believe what I just wrote or not. My research may be outdated and a lot of gaps may have been filled in by now. I have had cause to research this very carefully over a long period of time, and I won't get into why, nor will I venture out into that territory to gather links for you - I don't trust that my PTSD will stay at bay if I do. Some things are better left alone.

In any case, I see Trump as a ticking bomb. He is going to go off, we just don't know when.

So, you think Clinton is fit to fill that position? She is just as bad as he is, just extremely good at lying. She is doing all she can to sell our country to the highest bidders.

... Oh goody, let's throw in vague conspiracy theories too Smile That's really convincing, next to *actual video footage* of Trump being a racist fear mongering demagogue.

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21-09-2016, 07:52 AM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(21-09-2016 06:36 AM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  
(20-09-2016 04:13 PM)Dom Wrote:  Textbook malignant narcissist. See, the disorder is caused in early development, or at least that is the prevailing theory (please don't ask for a quote, the topic is a quagmire and quotes are buried in university papers). It occurs at the stage where the infant learns the distinction between "you" and "me". This distinction is never made, there is only a "me". The person grows up seeing the world as a theater with him/her as real person and the rest puppets that need to be manipulated to cater to "me". Empathy and related reactions are missing. Early on the child learns to mirror these emotions because manipulating works so much better that way. And now mirroring becomes a good choice. When you watch Trump - whatever someone accuses him of, he accuses them of the same thing. Someone says he is unfit for presidency - he throws it back at Hillary. Someone says he is crooked - bang, it's now crooked Hilary. These things become the cornerstone of his strategy - he repeats them over and over until everyone associates them with his opponent. They become a nick name.

Then there is the bragging - s/he is the best, knows the best, has the best and so on.

Lashing out in anger is the "malignant" part. There are narcissists that are conceited but otherwise ok. Those are not malignant.

Malignant narcissists trade in a currency - called narcissistic supply. The narcissist operates in a likeable fashion as long as the "supply" keeps flowing - people admire him/her. If the supply gets cut off, s/he becomes either a petulant child, just makes up outrageous lies (that happens constantly, there are no lies in their minds) or gets very angry.

My fear, and the reason why I think a Trump presidency needs to be avoided at all cost, is this disorder. He is a text book case.

You can believe what I just wrote or not. My research may be outdated and a lot of gaps may have been filled in by now. I have had cause to research this very carefully over a long period of time, and I won't get into why, nor will I venture out into that territory to gather links for you - I don't trust that my PTSD will stay at bay if I do. Some things are better left alone.

In any case, I see Trump as a ticking bomb. He is going to go off, we just don't know when.

So, you think Clinton is fit to fill that position? She is just as bad as he is, just extremely good at lying. She is doing all she can to sell our country to the highest bidders.

A jellyfish would make a safer president than a malignant narcissist.

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21-09-2016, 08:38 AM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(21-09-2016 06:36 AM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  
(20-09-2016 04:13 PM)Dom Wrote:  Textbook malignant narcissist. See, the disorder is caused in early development, or at least that is the prevailing theory (please don't ask for a quote, the topic is a quagmire and quotes are buried in university papers). It occurs at the stage where the infant learns the distinction between "you" and "me". This distinction is never made, there is only a "me". The person grows up seeing the world as a theater with him/her as real person and the rest puppets that need to be manipulated to cater to "me". Empathy and related reactions are missing. Early on the child learns to mirror these emotions because manipulating works so much better that way. And now mirroring becomes a good choice. When you watch Trump - whatever someone accuses him of, he accuses them of the same thing. Someone says he is unfit for presidency - he throws it back at Hillary. Someone says he is crooked - bang, it's now crooked Hilary. These things become the cornerstone of his strategy - he repeats them over and over until everyone associates them with his opponent. They become a nick name.

Then there is the bragging - s/he is the best, knows the best, has the best and so on.

Lashing out in anger is the "malignant" part. There are narcissists that are conceited but otherwise ok. Those are not malignant.

Malignant narcissists trade in a currency - called narcissistic supply. The narcissist operates in a likeable fashion as long as the "supply" keeps flowing - people admire him/her. If the supply gets cut off, s/he becomes either a petulant child, just makes up outrageous lies (that happens constantly, there are no lies in their minds) or gets very angry.

My fear, and the reason why I think a Trump presidency needs to be avoided at all cost, is this disorder. He is a text book case.

You can believe what I just wrote or not. My research may be outdated and a lot of gaps may have been filled in by now. I have had cause to research this very carefully over a long period of time, and I won't get into why, nor will I venture out into that territory to gather links for you - I don't trust that my PTSD will stay at bay if I do. Some things are better left alone.

In any case, I see Trump as a ticking bomb. He is going to go off, we just don't know when.

So, you think Clinton is fit to fill that position? She is just as bad as he is, just extremely good at lying. She is doing all she can to sell our country to the highest bidders.

If your best argument for Trump is that Clinton is maybe not the best choice, then you have no argument at all.

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21-09-2016, 01:14 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(21-09-2016 06:36 AM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  So, you think Clinton is fit to fill that position? She is just as bad as he is, just extremely good at lying.

You'd rather elect someone who really sucks at lying?

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21-09-2016, 01:24 PM
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This may be a nail in his coffin.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/politics/w...on-report/

There is NO COMPARISON between Clinton and Trump.

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21-09-2016, 01:32 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
Well, guys and gals, by my reading of the opinions stated here you have a choice. But, since it looks like you think you are going to be in the shit either way:

A) Female semi-criminal but experienced shit.

B) Male malevolent and unpredictable shit.

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