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13-10-2016, 07:15 AM (This post was last modified: 13-10-2016 07:32 AM by GenesisNemesis.)
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
For anyone who thinks Trump's foreign policy is somehow better than Clinton's- he is considering an Iraq war hawk, John Bolton, to be his Secretary of State. You have to ask yourself, why would a man who's so "concerned" about middle east foreign policy even consider appointing someone who is so rabidly against non-intervention in the middle east? If he had any idea at all about what he was doing, that is not something he would do.

Trump also thinks the Geneva Conventions are a problem, and that we have no reason not to use nukes against ISIS. And by the way, he gets military advice from TV.

Trump is simply a complete idiot and an all-around monster. If you think this guy is "less likely to start WW3" than Clinton, or better than Clinton in any way, you're totally wrong. You don't even want to flirt with the idea of him being president.

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13-10-2016, 10:34 AM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
I'm about as worried that Trump will win as I'm worried Jesus is real and is returning soon.
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13-10-2016, 10:56 AM
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(12-10-2016 06:46 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(11-10-2016 09:25 PM)Dark Light Wrote:  I am also unsure how you are calculating lone wolf vs organized attacks, but I imagine you would not include any attacks from skinheads as "organized", or else very few of them, because that doesn't seem to happen very often. No?

Excellent question. But it is not me who is calculating lone wolf vs. organized attacks. I just counted them from the wikipedia page I referenced. It is not clear from the page how they determined lone wolf status. Dunno. For example why aren't the 2002 DC snipers John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo included in the list? And I don't see Roof, Holmes, Lanza, or the Columbine shooters on there either. Think the point is that irrespective of the actual numbers there is a common misconception that "The majority of lone wolf attacks are muslim in nature."

I don't think even moderately informed people would claim otherwise without being facetious, but that's still only a part of the story, as you've demonstrated so well with your examples. I think when people say things like that they may really mean that Muslims are grossly overrepresented compared to the population at large. I am still curious about lone wolf vs organized attack though. I would've thought something like Roof would be a classic example of a lone wolf attack. If not, who was his co-conspirators, funders, or organizers? It seems like we are only getting a small piece of the pie and people are probably applying unfair definitions to justify their beliefs to skew the data rather than report the facts. Not sure where the numbers are coming from, but it the source cited well-respected? Seems there's fuckary afoot!

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13-10-2016, 11:08 AM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(12-10-2016 09:32 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(12-10-2016 09:23 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Yeah I'm crazy for not lapping up whatever they leak out. Wikileaks is not a neutral source and given the now known source of these hacks is even more suspect than usual.

Wikileaks doesn't matter anymore. Clinton is ahead of Trump with women by 33 points (61-28). Women make up the majority of voters. And his debate performance and "Bill Clinton's a rapist" press conference didn't exactly endear him to women. They're not gonna change their minds and vote for someone who regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S. over some wikileaks.

Anyone who knows me knows that I find Trump incompatible with decent government and would never vote for him, however I think it's important to note, that contrary to your intended message, what you conveyed was that strong evidence of corruption is irrelevant. I'd rather have had the doddering old race baiting, pandering, socialist theocrat than Clinton. Given my options I'll happily stick with the goofy pothead with terrible public speaking skills that I disagree with 25% of the time. Come on 12th amendment! Big Grin

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14-10-2016, 06:35 AM
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"We’ve reached the moment in time that George Washington warned about in his farewell address with the danger of factions. You have basically warring tribes that subordinate the national interest to their tribal interest.”

A GOP strategist explains why the Republican Party is about to break in two

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2...-alt-right

An interview with Steve Schmidt, salient points made.

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14-10-2016, 03:36 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
Oh look, Trump also lied about giving to the 9/11 charities. Gasp

NYC Official: No Evidence Trump Gave $10K to 9/11 Fund
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nyc-...nd-n666631

“New York City’s comptroller has found no evidence that Donald Trump gave $10,000 to a fund for 9/11 victims after the terror attack, and concluded that the GOP nominee ‘may have lied' about making a donation."

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15-10-2016, 05:31 AM
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I have no candidate with a chance of winning. I now find Trump too stupid to win, or to be trying to throw the election. I am going to vote Green Party. Hilary is evil and Trump is a moron that managed to make money. Hopefully enough people are tired of the usual trash to make a difference.
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15-10-2016, 06:28 AM
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(15-10-2016 05:31 AM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  I have no candidate with a chance of winning. I now find Trump too stupid to win, or to be trying to throw the election. I am going to vote Green Party. Hilary is evil and Trump is a moron that managed to make money. Hopefully enough people are tired of the usual trash to make a difference.

Why is Hillary "evil" but not Trump?

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15-10-2016, 06:37 AM
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(15-10-2016 06:28 AM)GenesisNemesis Wrote:  
(15-10-2016 05:31 AM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  I have no candidate with a chance of winning. I now find Trump too stupid to win, or to be trying to throw the election. I am going to vote Green Party. Hilary is evil and Trump is a moron that managed to make money. Hopefully enough people are tired of the usual trash to make a difference.

Why is Hillary "evil" but not Trump?

She is "evil" because Trump understands show business and he has not uttered her name without attaching the word "crooked" to it.

He has branded her. "Crooked Hillary" is now a brand, well advertised. No one ever said Trump was stupid. Badly deluded and mentally ill, yes. But not stupid.

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15-10-2016, 07:30 AM
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(15-10-2016 06:37 AM)Dom Wrote:  
(15-10-2016 06:28 AM)GenesisNemesis Wrote:  Why is Hillary "evil" but not Trump?

She is "evil" because Trump understands show business and he has not uttered her name without attaching the word "crooked" to it.

He has branded her. "Crooked Hillary" is now a brand, well advertised. No one ever said Trump was stupid. Badly deluded and mentally ill, yes. But not stupid.

That is not it. Even before Trump, I have seen Hilary as evil. She is the very definition of Ice Queen. I swear that robot is not capable of any emotion or of even telling the truth. She herself admitted to having a face she shows the public (to get votes) and a second persona when dealing with her Wall Street friends.
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