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10-11-2016, 01:44 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(10-11-2016 01:44 PM)Dark Light Wrote:  
(10-11-2016 01:39 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  Guess some people think that what Nazis did was instruction to follow. I would say you're unworhy of being called human being, but sadly humans did worse.

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You have some problem with sight? Maybe you didn't noticed part of Birdguy post about killing childrens?

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10-11-2016, 02:10 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(10-11-2016 01:44 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(10-11-2016 01:44 PM)Dark Light Wrote:  Go-go gadget rationalwiki!

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You have some problem with sight? Maybe you didn't noticed part of Birdguy post about killing childrens?

In this fictional scenario, if a child strapped with explosives was intent on killing me or my countrymen, yes, the moral action would be to kill the child.

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10-11-2016, 02:12 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(10-11-2016 02:10 PM)Dark Light Wrote:  
(10-11-2016 01:44 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  You have some problem with sight? Maybe you didn't noticed part of Birdguy post about killing childrens?

In this fictional scenario, if a child strapped with explosives was intent on killing me or my countrymen, yes, the moral action would be to kill the child.

Explosives were mentioned earlier. Later he spoke about wiping so called extremists who don't go along with us, children included. It does not look like situation you described, at least to my eyes.

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10-11-2016, 02:17 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(10-11-2016 02:10 PM)Dark Light Wrote:  
(10-11-2016 01:44 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  You have some problem with sight? Maybe you didn't noticed part of Birdguy post about killing childrens?

In this fictional scenario, if a child strapped with explosives was intent on killing me or my countrymen, yes, the moral action would be to kill the child.

Well, what about this makes you think this is fictional?





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10-11-2016, 02:21 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(10-11-2016 02:12 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(10-11-2016 02:10 PM)Dark Light Wrote:  In this fictional scenario, if a child strapped with explosives was intent on killing me or my countrymen, yes, the moral action would be to kill the child.

Explosives were mentioned earlier. Later he spoke about wiping so called extremists who don't go along with us, children included. It does not look like situation you described, at least to my eyes.

Okay, well perhaps we read the same thing differently. Let me state it clearly: I would find it reprehensible and morally disgusting to kill children because their relatives are scummbag Islamic terrorists. But, I would also be willing to kill explosive-laden children hellbent on the carrying out the plans of the Islamic death cult, even though they are victims themselves, if it saved myself and my family/countrymen.

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10-11-2016, 02:23 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(10-11-2016 02:17 PM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  
(10-11-2016 02:10 PM)Dark Light Wrote:  In this fictional scenario, if a child strapped with explosives was intent on killing me or my countrymen, yes, the moral action would be to kill the child.

Well, what about this makes you think this is fictional?






I didn't mean that there weren't child-terrorists. I meant that I was not in that scenario, ergo the scenario is fictional.

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10-11-2016, 02:27 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(10-11-2016 02:21 PM)Dark Light Wrote:  
(10-11-2016 02:12 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  Explosives were mentioned earlier. Later he spoke about wiping so called extremists who don't go along with us, children included. It does not look like situation you described, at least to my eyes.

Okay, well perhaps we read the same thing differently. Let me state it clearly: I would find it reprehensible and morally disgusting to kill children because their relatives are scummbag Islamic terrorists. But, I would also be willing to kill explosive-laden children hellbent on the carrying out the plans of the Islamic death cult, even though they are victims themselves, if it saved myself and my family/countrymen.

I agree with such take. I remember Birdguy's earlier posts though so I'm afraid that it is my interpretation which is right.

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10-11-2016, 06:15 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(10-11-2016 08:57 AM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  They are not like us and the ones that will always refuse to get along (the extremists) need to be wiped out. Little ones included.

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10-11-2016, 06:41 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(10-11-2016 08:57 AM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  They are not like us and the ones that will always refuse to get along (the extremists) need to be wiped out. Little ones included.

By "us" do you mean atheists? 'Cause the Christians fundies ain't like "us" either.

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10-11-2016, 07:49 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
Godammit, I was gonna go into story time again but I think I'll keep this one to myself and instead just stay in the realm of hypothetical.

One of the reasons training children to fight works so well is because they know damn well that even the coldest, hardest soldiers will usually freeze up when faced with the prospect of killing a child regardless of the danger that child poses. If we're ever put into the position of doing that on any kind of large scale, we might as well just be left over there because the baggage we bring back won't be worth the trade-off of having a few less terrorists in the world.

Whether they arguably deserve it or not, all aspects of cause/effect have to be taken into consideration.

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