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13-06-2016, 12:59 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
I am not talking about foreign countries. I am talking about what goes on here, where I live.
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13-06-2016, 01:01 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.



There is only one really serious philosophical question, and that is suicide. -Camus
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13-06-2016, 01:36 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(13-06-2016 06:19 AM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  
(11-06-2016 11:15 AM)tomilay Wrote:  You would support a program to euthanize such people, no?

Not euthanize. Just allowing to die. If you are that lazy that you won't get a job to help yourself, we just let you starve. You would have a choice. Work, even if it is doing something for the government in exchange for a welfare check or starve. I am not talking about have a purge. We would not be killing, just allowing to die off.
What about their children?

We have to remember that what we observe is not nature herself, but nature exposed to our method of questioning ~ Werner Heisenberg
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13-06-2016, 01:46 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(13-06-2016 01:36 PM)tomilay Wrote:  
(13-06-2016 06:19 AM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  Not euthanize. Just allowing to die. If you are that lazy that you won't get a job to help yourself, we just let you starve. You would have a choice. Work, even if it is doing something for the government in exchange for a welfare check or starve. I am not talking about have a purge. We would not be killing, just allowing to die off.
What about their children?

I answered that in a previous post. Their children should be taken away.
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13-06-2016, 02:00 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(13-06-2016 01:46 PM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  
(13-06-2016 01:36 PM)tomilay Wrote:  What about their children?

I answered that in a previous post. Their children should be taken away.
I missed it then.

So government should

1. Take away any children born to people who don't want to work. Somehow ensure they will be okay.
2. Guarantee those who want to work something to do.
3. Let the parents of the newfangled orphans starve. To death.

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13-06-2016, 02:28 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(13-06-2016 02:00 PM)tomilay Wrote:  
(13-06-2016 01:46 PM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  I answered that in a previous post. Their children should be taken away.
I missed it then.

So government should

1. Take away any children born to people who don't want to work. Somehow ensure they will be okay.
2. Guarantee those who want to work something to do.
3. Let the parents of the newfangled orphans starve. To death.

Do I understand you?

Yes, either die or decide to do a job. Whichever comes first. There are lots of things that need to be done. For them to sit there and say "Nope, don't want to work." is not acceptable.
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13-06-2016, 02:42 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(13-06-2016 01:46 PM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  
(13-06-2016 01:36 PM)tomilay Wrote:  What about their children?

I answered that in a previous post. Their children should be taken away.

So you want to shuffle the money from one government account to another government account. Got it.
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13-06-2016, 02:43 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(13-06-2016 02:28 PM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  
(13-06-2016 02:00 PM)tomilay Wrote:  I missed it then.

So government should

1. Take away any children born to people who don't want to work. Somehow ensure they will be okay.
2. Guarantee those who want to work something to do.
3. Let the parents of the newfangled orphans starve. To death.

Do I understand you?

Yes, either die or decide to do a job. Whichever comes first. There are lots of things that need to be done. For them to sit there and say "Nope, don't want to work." is not acceptable.

Dude I hope 1979 ain't your birth year 'cause you sound like a 12 yo.

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13-06-2016, 03:03 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(13-06-2016 02:28 PM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  
(13-06-2016 02:00 PM)tomilay Wrote:  I missed it then.

So government should

1. Take away any children born to people who don't want to work. Somehow ensure they will be okay.
2. Guarantee those who want to work something to do.
3. Let the parents of the newfangled orphans starve. To death.

Do I understand you?

Yes, either die or decide to do a job. Whichever comes first. There are lots of things that need to be done. For them to sit there and say "Nope, don't want to work." is not acceptable.
What do you do with the pregnant ones?

You don't see a problem with placing millions of lazy people on the path to a slow death after snatching their children.

Is there more than a slight risk that some of them become criminals? A danger to polite society?

Do you see any potential risks? What would it cost to mitigate them?

What do you reckon this kind of program would cost in socio-economic terms?

We have to remember that what we observe is not nature herself, but nature exposed to our method of questioning ~ Werner Heisenberg
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13-06-2016, 06:46 PM
RE: Worrying About a Trump Victory? Don't.
(13-06-2016 03:03 PM)tomilay Wrote:  
(13-06-2016 02:28 PM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  Yes, either die or decide to do a job. Whichever comes first. There are lots of things that need to be done. For them to sit there and say "Nope, don't want to work." is not acceptable.
What do you do with the pregnant ones?

You don't see a problem with placing millions of lazy people on the path to a slow death after snatching their children.

Is there more than a slight risk that some of them become criminals? A danger to polite society?

Do you see any potential risks? What would it cost to mitigate them?

What do you reckon this kind of program would cost in socio-economic terms?

Oh, please. Who are you to introduce nuance into such a red-blooded conversation?!
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