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14-11-2012, 10:35 AM
Question Writing a Paper - Wanting Ideas
So I am currently writing a persuasive paper about the separation of church &
state and religious freedom and I'm looking for some more ideas and arguments
for and against the separation of church & state. So far I have that the U.S. was not founded
as a "Christian nation", I have refuted the notion that
"separation of church and state" is not in the constitution (it is
not the only thing that was not explicitly expressed in the constitution), and
I have cited what can happen with nations that endorse one religion above
others (used a handful of examples of countries with Sharia Law).


While I can write a decent persuasive paper using what I have, I still feel like I
can include another argument and counter argument.


So, is there anything else I should probably consider?


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14-11-2012, 10:58 AM
RE: Writing a Paper - Wanting Ideas
(14-11-2012 10:35 AM)Badbrew Wrote:  So I am currently writing a persuasive paper about the separation of church &
state and religious freedom and I'm looking for some more ideas and arguments
for and against the separation of church & state. So far I have that the U.S. was not founded
as a "Christian nation", I have refuted the notion that
"separation of church and state" is not in the constitution (it is
not the only thing that was not explicitly expressed in the constitution), and
I have cited what can happen with nations that endorse one religion above
others (used a handful of examples of countries with Sharia Law).


While I can write a decent persuasive paper using what I have, I still feel like I
can include another argument and counter argument.


So, is there anything else I should probably consider?


(Sorry if this is in the wrong section of the forum)
The phrase "separation of church and state" does not appear in the Constitution but the concept does.

Article VI states "... but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States".

Amendment I states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; ..."

Jefferson coined the phrase.

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14-11-2012, 11:42 AM
RE: Writing a Paper - Wanting Ideas
(14-11-2012 10:58 AM)Chas Wrote:  The phrase "separation of church and state" does not appear in the Constitution but the concept does.

Article VI states "... but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States".

Amendment I states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; ..."

Jefferson coined the phrase.
I didn't even think to re-read the articles, thanks!
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14-11-2012, 12:25 PM
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If you want to understand the writers of the Constitution, you may want to read The Federalist Papers, if you haven't.
Also, the US is not a theocracy, so any reference to a god or gods, or any any particular religion or it's god, in the public place, is inappropriate. It's rather ingrained in some places, as a matter of custom, from the old days when the idea of life *without* religion was unimaginable. It was just assumed any rational normal person believed in some sort of deity. That is no longer the case, as culture has changed. The trappings of the outdated culture need to go,) ie *prayer* in the Congressional sessions, military ceremonies, etc.

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14-11-2012, 12:26 PM
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"...what can happen with nations that endorse one religion above others..."
Have a look at the UK.

The church and state are not separate.

UK citizens are officially 'subjects' of dear old queenie and are therefore effectively Church of England (Scotland/Wales) by default (unless we state otherwise).

It's official therefore no one gives a shit about god(s).

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18-11-2012, 03:35 PM
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(14-11-2012 12:25 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Also, the US is not a theocracy, so any reference to a god or gods, or any any particular religion or it's god, in the public place, is inappropriate. It's rather ingrained in some places, as a matter of custom, from the old days when the idea of life *without* religion was unimaginable. It was just assumed any rational normal person believed in some sort of deity. That is no longer the case, as culture has changed. The trappings of the outdated culture need to go,) ie *prayer* in the Congressional sessions, military ceremonies, etc.
Hmm, I think I might do something kinda along those lines, thanks!
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