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03-12-2012, 10:15 AM
RE: Yale's Introduction to the New and Old Testaments.
(03-12-2012 10:06 AM)Denicio Wrote:  
(03-12-2012 09:59 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Somewhere, there is a rather extensive audio set, by Ehrman. I'll look for it.
Oh Dear! I MUST HAVE THIS! My Salvation Depends on it!!! Please hook a brother up!
It used to be here, but no longer. I'll see if I can find it somewhere else.
http://archive.org/details/HistoricalJesus (Bart Ehrman's LONG series, audio)
It looks like they removed it so he could offer it for sale.
http://www.thegreatcourses.com/tgc/cours...px?cid=643

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03-12-2012, 12:58 PM
RE: Yale's Introduction to the New and Old Testaments.
(03-12-2012 09:42 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  I'm watching the "Old" part first. She makes some good points, and I'm only partway through it, but I do disagree about some things she says. She says from the beginning she will be an academic, and objective. Then immediately starts talking about "God", (capital "G), and I'm sure she is a theist, and it shines through in a lot of the things she says. She says the Genesis accounts places the woman last, as the pinnacle of creation, when in fact the woman is an after-thought, when the god *discovers* "it was not good for the man to be alone". She also says the Hebrews had a unique value of human life, when in fact their god is as destructive of life as anyone could be. She also introduces "evil" with no introduction, when in fact it was still "choas" from the Babylonians. She finds the idea of "monotheism" as a unique development, when in fact it arose non-uniquely, late, from the culture as a result of the destruction of the meaning system of "family" systems, after the Exilic period, and polytheism had to be actively suppressed (for political purposes). So, it's good in a way, as an example of a non-fundie academic approach, but I would argue with her about many of the things she says, and the way she says them. She is obviously "walking on eggshells", trying not to upset the "believers" in the class. She does say Sarna "overstates" things, which he does, in attempting to say the god(s) of Israel were the first examples of "charity and compassion". That was clearly evident in the Egyptian Book of the Dead, before them, and in Athraisis and Gilgamesh, (from Babylon).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Minimalism
Where did you find this stuff out? I plan to read Karen Armstrongs A History of God soon, and work my way through the booklist in the Atheist Resources topic, is it in one of those?

I don't really have much to compare the lecturers ideas to unless I buy the Jewish Study Bible she recommends for the course.
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03-12-2012, 01:16 PM
RE: Yale's Introduction to the New and Old Testaments.
(03-12-2012 10:15 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(03-12-2012 10:06 AM)Denicio Wrote:  Oh Dear! I MUST HAVE THIS! My Salvation Depends on it!!! Please hook a brother up!
It used to be here, but no longer. I'll see if I can find it somewhere else.
http://archive.org/details/HistoricalJesus (Bart Ehrman's LONG series, audio)
It looks like they removed it so he could offer it for sale.
http://www.thegreatcourses.com/tgc/cours...px?cid=643

THANK YOU! No worries about buying it. The man should be compensated for his life long work into this subject.
Buying it now.
The book i am reading at the moment is his book called "Forged". Love me some Bart E!
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03-12-2012, 01:36 PM
Yale's Introduction to the New and Old Testaments.
(03-12-2012 10:15 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(03-12-2012 10:06 AM)Denicio Wrote:  Oh Dear! I MUST HAVE THIS! My Salvation Depends on it!!! Please hook a brother up!
It used to be here, but no longer. I'll see if I can find it somewhere else.
http://archive.org/details/HistoricalJesus (Bart Ehrman's LONG series, audio)
It looks like they removed it so he could offer it for sale.
http://www.thegreatcourses.com/tgc/cours...px?cid=643

That's the one I found when I went looking.

There is a smattering of various podcasts on iTunes featuring the good agnostic doctor.

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03-12-2012, 01:54 PM
RE: Yale's Introduction to the New and Old Testaments.
(03-12-2012 01:36 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  
(03-12-2012 10:15 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  It used to be here, but no longer. I'll see if I can find it somewhere else.
http://archive.org/details/HistoricalJesus (Bart Ehrman's LONG series, audio)
It looks like they removed it so he could offer it for sale.
http://www.thegreatcourses.com/tgc/cours...px?cid=643

That's the one I found when I went looking.

There is a smattering of various podcasts on iTunes featuring the good agnostic doctor.
Maybe there's another set. I look some more.

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03-12-2012, 01:57 PM
RE: Yale's Introduction to the New and Old Testaments.
(03-12-2012 01:54 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(03-12-2012 01:36 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  That's the one I found when I went looking.

There is a smattering of various podcasts on iTunes featuring the good agnostic doctor.
Maybe there's another set. I look some more.
I just purchased this set and have downloaded it for my ipod. Thanks for sending me the link!
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03-12-2012, 02:02 PM (This post was last modified: 03-12-2012 07:20 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Yale's Introduction to the New and Old Testaments.
(03-12-2012 12:58 PM)hedgehog648 Wrote:  
(03-12-2012 09:42 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  I'm watching the "Old" part first. She makes some good points, and I'm only partway through it, but I do disagree about some things she says. She says from the beginning she will be an academic, and objective. Then immediately starts talking about "God", (capital "G), and I'm sure she is a theist, and it shines through in a lot of the things she says. She says the Genesis accounts places the woman last, as the pinnacle of creation, when in fact the woman is an after-thought, when the god *discovers* "it was not good for the man to be alone". She also says the Hebrews had a unique value of human life, when in fact their god is as destructive of life as anyone could be. She also introduces "evil" with no introduction, when in fact it was still "choas" from the Babylonians. She finds the idea of "monotheism" as a unique development, when in fact it arose non-uniquely, late, from the culture as a result of the destruction of the meaning system of "family" systems, after the Exilic period, and polytheism had to be actively suppressed (for political purposes). So, it's good in a way, as an example of a non-fundie academic approach, but I would argue with her about many of the things she says, and the way she says them. She is obviously "walking on eggshells", trying not to upset the "believers" in the class. She does say Sarna "overstates" things, which he does, in attempting to say the god(s) of Israel were the first examples of "charity and compassion". That was clearly evident in the Egyptian Book of the Dead, before them, and in Athraisis and Gilgamesh, (from Babylon).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Minimalism
Where did you find this stuff out? I plan to read Karen Armstrongs A History of God soon, and work my way through the booklist in the Atheist Resources topic, is it in one of those?

I don't really have much to compare the lecturers ideas to unless I buy the Jewish Study Bible she recommends for the course.
It's (the OT) an "avocation". Blush
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...+Testament
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...olden+Calf

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03-12-2012, 06:38 PM
RE: Yale's Introduction to the New and Old Testaments.
(03-12-2012 02:02 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(03-12-2012 12:58 PM)hedgehog648 Wrote:  Where did you find this stuff out? I plan to read Karen Armstrongs A History of God soon, and work my way through the booklist in the Atheist Resources topic, is it in one of those?

I don't really have much to compare the lecturers ideas to unless I buy the Jewish Study Bible she recommends for the course.
It's (the OT) is an "avocation". Blush
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...+Testament
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...olden+Calf
Well that's going to take a while to get through Tongue

Thanks friend.
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03-12-2012, 06:53 PM
RE: Yale's Introduction to the New and Old Testaments.
(03-12-2012 09:46 AM)Denicio Wrote:  
(01-12-2012 01:51 AM)Noelani Wrote:  Thanks for posting this. I am almost done with a New Testament lecture series by Bart Ehrman from Chapel Hill. I bought blue tooth headphones just so that I could listen to the lectures and debates while I did laundry or washed dishes. Chores need not be boring anymore!
Are you referring to the Dale Martin lecture? Or does Bart have his OWN lecture series?
Please let me know. I'd be beyond happy if ole Bart had his own series.
D
Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to you, I haven't been getting alert e-mails. Confused

I can't find the page where I downloaded his talks from. But a quick search lead me to some other talks from him here: http://archive.org/search.php?query=hist...t%20ehrman

The one titled "Historical Jesus" might be the one that I have.
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03-12-2012, 07:01 PM
RE: Yale's Introduction to the New and Old Testaments.
(03-12-2012 01:16 PM)Denicio Wrote:  
(03-12-2012 10:15 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  It used to be here, but no longer. I'll see if I can find it somewhere else.
http://archive.org/details/HistoricalJesus (Bart Ehrman's LONG series, audio)
It looks like they removed it so he could offer it for sale.
http://www.thegreatcourses.com/tgc/cours...px?cid=643

THANK YOU! No worries about buying it. The man should be compensated for his life long work into this subject.
Buying it now.
The book i am reading at the moment is his book called "Forged". Love me some Bart E!
D
I was too late. I see Bucky hooked you up.

I am reading Forged, too! Well... actually that's not entirely true. I was reading Forged until I had to give it back to the library. I said screw it and bought my own copy. But as fast as Amazon shipping is I couldn't help but pick up a new book. So I am now reading The Origin of Satan, and then I will have to start all over again on Forged.

Have you read Misquoting Jesus? That one is next on my list.
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