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01-05-2014, 04:46 PM
Yay for American gun laws
You people are seriously ridiculous.

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01-05-2014, 06:55 PM
RE: Yay for American gun laws
(01-05-2014 04:46 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  You people are seriously ridiculous.

They will likely be convicted of at least manslaughter - their actions don't appear to be covered by Montana's castle law.

Montana Law Wrote:45-3-103. Use of force in defense of occupied structure. (1) A person is justified in the use of force or threat to use force against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that the use of force is necessary to prevent or terminate the other person's unlawful entry into or attack upon an occupied structure.

(2) A person justified in the use of force pursuant to subsection (1) is justified in the use of force likely to cause death or serious bodily harm only if:

(a) the entry is made or attempted and the person reasonably believes that the force is necessary to prevent an assault upon the person or another then in the occupied structure; or

(b) the person reasonably believes that the force is necessary to prevent the commission of a forcible felony in the occupied structure.

And please note that the law says nothing about firearms. Drinking Beverage

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01-05-2014, 07:34 PM
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I was thinking that myself, surely shooting someone without any kind of warning is a little bit beyond the reasonable force the law seemingly implies.

I hope he gets charged with murder tbh, it would seem insane to me that a guy who has admitted trying to lure people onto his property to shoot (and doing so) would be found not guilty.

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01-05-2014, 07:39 PM
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(01-05-2014 07:34 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  I was thinking that myself, surely shooting someone without any kind of warning is a little bit beyond the reasonable force the law seemingly implies.

I hope he gets charged with murder tbh, it would seem insane to me that a guy who has admitted trying to lure people onto his property to shoot (and doing so) would be found not guilty.

The guy was looking to kill...

That's premeditated in my mind.

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01-05-2014, 08:15 PM
RE: Yay for American gun laws
(01-05-2014 07:39 PM)Sam Wrote:  
(01-05-2014 07:34 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  I was thinking that myself, surely shooting someone without any kind of warning is a little bit beyond the reasonable force the law seemingly implies.

I hope he gets charged with murder tbh, it would seem insane to me that a guy who has admitted trying to lure people onto his property to shoot (and doing so) would be found not guilty.

The guy was looking to kill...

That's premeditated in my mind.




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01-05-2014, 09:08 PM
RE: Yay for American gun laws
(01-05-2014 07:39 PM)Sam Wrote:  
(01-05-2014 07:34 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  I was thinking that myself, surely shooting someone without any kind of warning is a little bit beyond the reasonable force the law seemingly implies.

I hope he gets charged with murder tbh, it would seem insane to me that a guy who has admitted trying to lure people onto his property to shoot (and doing so) would be found not guilty.

The guy was looking to kill...

That's premeditated in my mind.

There have been other cases of somone essentially 'lying in wait' or setting a trap for possible burglars; often they are charged with at least negligent homicide.

This, and
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01-05-2014, 11:06 PM
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(01-05-2014 08:15 PM)Alex_Leonardo Wrote:  
(01-05-2014 07:39 PM)Sam Wrote:  The guy was looking to kill...

That's premeditated in my mind.




Yeah, I think that's what I find so creepy about gun enthusiasts...

Its not what they do on the range, or in a gun store... Its what happens at night, when the lights are off, and nobody's watching...

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03-05-2014, 04:29 AM (This post was last modified: 03-05-2014 04:44 AM by Juv.)
RE: Yay for American gun laws
(01-05-2014 11:06 PM)Sam Wrote:  
(01-05-2014 08:15 PM)Alex_Leonardo Wrote:  


Yeah, I think that's what I find so creepy about gun enthusiasts...

Its not what they do on the range, or in a gun store... Its what happens at night, when the lights are off, and nobody's watching...

Because, remember.

Happiness, is a warm gun... Big Grin




Little Britain doesn't know shit, fuck them.

Gun laws are not the problem here.

According to the media reports, the kid stupidly entered an unknown persons garage, and was killed. Major heartbreak for his family, but some self preservationist thinking on his part would mean he would still be alive...... Is it common in Germany to enter a strangers residence?

My impression of Germans was that they respect personal space and privacy.
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03-05-2014, 04:48 AM
RE: Yay for American gun laws
(01-05-2014 11:06 PM)Sam Wrote:  Yeah, I think that's what I find so creepy about gun enthusiasts...

Its not what they do on the range, or in a gun store... Its what happens at night, when the lights are off, and nobody's watching...

Because, remember.

Happiness, is a warm gun... Big Grin

You mean like this?

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03-05-2014, 07:46 AM
RE: Yay for American gun laws
(03-05-2014 04:48 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(01-05-2014 11:06 PM)Sam Wrote:  Yeah, I think that's what I find so creepy about gun enthusiasts...

Its not what they do on the range, or in a gun store... Its what happens at night, when the lights are off, and nobody's watching...

Because, remember.

Happiness, is a warm gun... Big Grin

You mean like this?

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