You Are More Likely To Be Shot If There Is A Gun in The Home
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23-07-2017, 06:44 AM
RE: You Are More Likely To Be Shot If There Is A Gun in The Home
(23-07-2017 06:23 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  Petty word games aren't a valid argument.

Please bear that in mind in the future.
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23-07-2017, 06:48 AM
RE: You Are More Likely To Be Shot If There Is A Gun in The Home
(23-07-2017 06:36 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  
(23-07-2017 06:18 AM)Norm Deplume Wrote:  But...


The subject line says nothing about poisoning, stabbing, strangling or bludgeoning. Nor does it say anything about being killed as you pointed out immediately before listing ways to be killed. That's called shooting yourself in the foot. an idiom that seems appropriate.
He dodges the false equivalence issue as usual.

You continue to fail to prove in any way that having a gun in your home makes you less safe. That is what this thread is about.

Care to address it directly?

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23-07-2017, 07:27 AM
RE: You Are More Likely To Be Shot If There Is A Gun in The Home
I provided evidence, apparently you don't like it. As usual you are being relentlessly obstreperous. This is why you are usually on ignore.
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23-07-2017, 07:38 AM
RE: You Are More Likely To Be Shot If There Is A Gun in The Home
(23-07-2017 05:23 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  The implication is you are more likely to be killed if there is a gun is in the home, but that's not the true statement. You are more likely to be shot.

Why isn't that a true statement? Seems like a true statement. You are also more likely to be killed if if there are knives, bleach, drugs, pesticides, baseball bats, pillows, plastic bags, hair chargers and bathtubs, .... in the home. The question is how much more likely? Isn't it?

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23-07-2017, 07:53 AM
RE: You Are More Likely To Be Shot If There Is A Gun in The Home
(23-07-2017 07:38 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(23-07-2017 05:23 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  The implication is you are more likely to be killed if there is a gun is in the home, but that's not the true statement. You are more likely to be shot.

Why isn't that a true statement? Seems like a true statement. You are also more likely to be killed if if there are knives, bleach, drugs, pesticides, baseball bats, pillows, plastic bags, hair chargers and bathtubs, .... in the home. The question is how much more likely? Isn't it?
The old "just as dangerous!" argument ignores the fact that all those items have other uses. AND that people seldom kill each other with bathtubs. (Sorry, Norman Bates, but it's true. :smartassSmile
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23-07-2017, 07:54 AM
RE: You Are More Likely To Be Shot If There Is A Gun in The Home
(23-07-2017 07:38 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(23-07-2017 05:23 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  The implication is you are more likely to be killed if there is a gun is in the home, but that's not the true statement. You are more likely to be shot.

Why isn't that a true statement? Seems like a true statement. You are also more likely to be killed if if there are knives, bleach, drugs, pesticides, baseball bats, pillows, plastic bags, hair chargers and bathtubs, .... in the home. The question is how much more likely? Isn't it?

Yes.

The statement "You are more likely to be shot if there is a gun in the home" is used almost exclusively by anti- gun ownership types. They rarely say " you are more likely to be killed if you have a gun in the home, because the second statement begs for quantification, while the first is fairly self evident. It's also misleading.

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23-07-2017, 07:56 AM
RE: You Are More Likely To Be Shot If There Is A Gun in The Home
(23-07-2017 07:53 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  
(23-07-2017 07:38 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Why isn't that a true statement? Seems like a true statement. You are also more likely to be killed if if there are knives, bleach, drugs, pesticides, baseball bats, pillows, plastic bags, hair chargers and bathtubs, .... in the home. The question is how much more likely? Isn't it?
The old "just as dangerous!" argument ignores the fact that all those items have other uses. AND that people seldom kill each other with bathtubs. (Sorry, Norman Bates, but it's true. :smartassSmile

Guns are not more dangerous.

They're quicker and more lethal than other methods, but not more dangerous.

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23-07-2017, 08:09 AM
RE: You Are More Likely To Be Shot If There Is A Gun in The Home
If only this 4 year old had his own gun.

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23-07-2017, 08:17 AM
RE: You Are More Likely To Be Shot If There Is A Gun in The Home
(23-07-2017 08:09 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  If only this 4 year old had his own gun.

http://www.kens5.com/life/vigil-for-4-ye.../458383111

Yep, he could have defended his home!
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23-07-2017, 08:33 AM
RE: You Are More Likely To Be Shot If There Is A Gun in The Home
(23-07-2017 08:09 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  If only this 4 year old had his own gun.

http://www.kens5.com/life/vigil-for-4-ye.../458383111

Emotional pandering really isn't an applicable argument to the subject matter.

Gang violence is a different matter from whether or not a gun in the home makes you more or less likely to be shot.

If you'd like to discuss gun violence regarding gangs, I'd say you could start a lively thread to that discussion.

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