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13-10-2014, 03:31 AM
RE: You can be the better/stronger person without atheism
(13-10-2014 03:01 AM)MattMVS7 Wrote:  
(13-10-2014 02:50 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  At least the dude gave you guys fair warning that any discussion with him was absolutely pointless.

My own personal experience of pleasure was so great and profound that absolutely NOTHING can make me see anything anywhere near as good as or better in life than my pleasure as well as an eternal life of pleasure (heaven).

Hate to break it to you, but your over-abundance of dopamine is of no consequence to me or my point; you have declared that there can be no debate or discussion with you, at least not one which is remotely intellectually stimulating or at all meaningful as you will never consider anything but your own side.

Until you change that, my lampshade shall forever remain hung.

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13-10-2014, 03:40 AM
RE: You can be the better/stronger person without atheism
(13-10-2014 03:30 AM)MattMVS7 Wrote:  ...
The only real problem I would have here then would be the idea of there being no afterlife of eternal joy of no suffering that I can look forward to despite my life here on Earth which is now worthless since I no longer have any pleasure.

Yup. I think you have correctly identified the problem (if not the root cause of that problem).

The vast majority of people on TTA have resolved that problem.

The moment of realisation is quite an epiphany, I'm told.

Come back when it happens and share the experience.

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13-10-2014, 03:45 AM
RE: You can be the better/stronger person without atheism
(13-10-2014 03:17 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(13-10-2014 02:32 AM)MattMVS7 Wrote:  I'm actually trying to win this debate. Therefore, go ahead and address the previous post I just made as well.

What debate? You're seeking justification from others for your unjustified delusions.

They remain unjustified, despite your pathetic pleading.

You can have them, but they remain unjustified, and trying to justify them to us is an exercise in futility.



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So how would I go about trying to justify them then?
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13-10-2014, 04:01 AM
RE: You can be the better/stronger person without atheism
(13-10-2014 03:30 AM)MattMVS7 Wrote:  The only real problem I would have here then would be the idea of there being no afterlife of eternal joy of no suffering that I can look forward to despite my life here on Earth which is now worthless since I no longer have any pleasure.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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13-10-2014, 04:31 AM
RE: You can be the better/stronger person without atheism
(13-10-2014 03:45 AM)MattMVS7 Wrote:  ...
So how would I go about trying to justify them then?

Try this.

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13-10-2014, 04:36 AM
RE: You can be the better/stronger person without atheism
(13-10-2014 04:31 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(13-10-2014 03:45 AM)MattMVS7 Wrote:  ...
So how would I go about trying to justify them then?

Try this.

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What about in terms of philosophy as well?
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13-10-2014, 04:49 AM
RE: You can be the better/stronger person without atheism
(12-10-2014 10:39 PM)MattMVS7 Wrote:  First off, I am very serious (hence the reason why I put effort and typed all of this out). Therefore, people should return the favor by putting effort and taking my post seriously by reading all of it and debating against all of it.


Your thread title is "You can be the better/stronger person without atheism"

This is the equivalent of being a door to door salesman trying to push your unwanted wares onto people who prefer to be left undisturbed. And then when they complain that your sales patter is incomprehensible you say that because you spent a long time walking to their house to knock on their door to fleece money off them that they should return the favour by making an effort to understand you and ask you questions about a product that they are not interested in.

No one owes you any favours.

If you want to put time and effort into trying to convince anyone of anything then you owe yourself the favour of communicating in the clearest way possible.
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13-10-2014, 04:50 AM
RE: You can be the better/stronger person without atheism
(13-10-2014 03:45 AM)MattMVS7 Wrote:  
(13-10-2014 03:17 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  What debate? You're seeking justification from others for your unjustified delusions.

They remain unjustified, despite your pathetic pleading.

You can have them, but they remain unjustified, and trying to justify them to us is an exercise in futility.



Stupid cunt... Facepalm
So how would I go about trying to justify them then?

By pulling your head out of your ass, realizing your delusions simply are not justified (because you lack reasons, evidence, and logic; you have nothing outside of your subjective feels). and either move on with your life or kill yourself and stop using up valuable oxygen.

No would you kindly go fuck yourself?

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13-10-2014, 05:01 AM
RE: You can be the better/stronger person without atheism
(13-10-2014 04:49 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  If you want to put time and effort into trying to convince anyone of anything then you owe yourself the favour of communicating in the clearest way possible.
The thing about that is if I were to just state a paragraph or two, then it would be likely that many people will find many things to argue against what I said in those one or two paragraphs. So I would then have to counter their arguments by adding another paragraph onto my post. Then there will be even more people finding more arguments against those paragraphs. So I would then have to counter those arguments as well and add my counter argument to those paragraphs. This whole process would then continue until I have many paragraphs up to the point where everyone should be convinced and not be able to find anything else to argue against me. So you can see why my posts are always so long all the time. It is because I wish to convince everyone as much as I possibly can to the point where they can no longer argue against me (meaning that it would be likely that I would win this whole debate). If not, then at least I was as close as possible to winning.
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13-10-2014, 06:23 AM
RE: You can be the better/stronger person without atheism
(13-10-2014 02:12 AM)MattMVS7 Wrote:  Although I see what you mean, I am the type of person who (despite my christian belief in the past) does not solely rely on prayers and God. I am a type of person who does not use my religious belief as a means of thinking God will protect me or others. So my point still stands about religion having the much greater benefit for me as well as other people like me on this forum or out in the world.


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