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18-06-2015, 05:47 PM
RE: You don't need to die.
(18-06-2015 05:37 PM)enochian Wrote:  The higher type of rainbow body occurs when you are alive.

The lesser type of rainbow body occurs *during* the death process.

Either way, you are alive.

Are you high?

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18-06-2015, 05:48 PM
RE: You don't need to die.
(18-06-2015 05:39 PM)enochian Wrote:  Most of the westerners who follow Dzogchen are former rationalists and New Atheists.

and you have statistics that show this? Or is this just another wild-ass claim with no substance behind it?

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18-06-2015, 05:49 PM
RE: You don't need to die.
(18-06-2015 05:38 PM)pablo Wrote:  
(18-06-2015 05:35 PM)enochian Wrote:  We are not talking about after death.

This is while alive.

Immortality, even better. Go pull someone else's leg, mine's getting sore.


Well, we call it Samyaksambuddhahood.
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18-06-2015, 05:51 PM
RE: You don't need to die.
(18-06-2015 05:49 PM)enochian Wrote:  
(18-06-2015 05:38 PM)pablo Wrote:  Immortality, even better. Go pull someone else's leg, mine's getting sore.


Well, we call it Samyaksambuddhahood.

I call it bullshit.

Potato, potahto...let's call this whole thing off.

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18-06-2015, 05:52 PM
RE: You don't need to die.
(18-06-2015 05:48 PM)unfogged Wrote:  
(18-06-2015 05:39 PM)enochian Wrote:  Most of the westerners who follow Dzogchen are former rationalists and New Atheists.

and you have statistics that show this? Or is this just another wild-ass claim with no substance behind it?

Its my personal experience that most western Tibetan Buddhists are former rationalists and New Atheists.
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18-06-2015, 05:54 PM
RE: You don't need to die.
Samyaksambuddha
Samyaksambuddhas (Pali: sammasambuddha) gain Nirvana by their own efforts, and discover the Dhamma without having a teacher to point it out. They then lead others to enlightenment by teaching the Dhamma in a time or world where it has been forgotten or has not been taught before, because a Samyaksambuddha does not depend upon a tradition that stretches back to a previous Samyaksambuddha, but instead discovers the path anew. In the Bahudhātuka Sutta ("Many Kinds of Elements Discourse,"


It is impossible, it cannot happen that two Accomplished Ones, Fully Enlightened Ones, could arise contemporaneously in one world-system—there is no such possibility.

The historical Buddha, Gautama Buddha, is considered a Samyaksambuddha.


So people just basically make shit up and pass it off as Samyaksam.

Great.

Next!

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18-06-2015, 05:56 PM
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?????
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18-06-2015, 05:56 PM
RE: You don't need to die.
(18-06-2015 05:52 PM)enochian Wrote:  Its my personal experience that most western Tibetan Buddhists are former rationalists and New Atheists.

"former" being the operative word there

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18-06-2015, 05:56 PM
RE: You don't need to die.
(18-06-2015 05:52 PM)enochian Wrote:  Its my personal experience that most western Tibetan Buddhists are former rationalists and New Atheists.

Your personal experience is worthless here.

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18-06-2015, 06:32 PM
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Written stories are a dime a dozen.
Cell phones and video recordings are quite easy nowadays.
Show me a video of this happening.

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