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29-07-2014, 03:29 PM
RE: You have 10 seconds to name ONE contribution to the world made by a woman
(29-07-2014 03:12 PM)cjlr Wrote:  
(29-07-2014 03:05 PM)morondog Wrote:  Ha, thanks. Just hadda go look it up now. She's not the ultimate Mama, she just the most recent common female ancestor of all humans, if I'm reading it right.

Indeed. Every population will have a most recent common ancestor. That's inevitable statistics. This does not mean they have a single ultimate common ancestor.

I remember PleaseJesus once being confused staggeringly dishonest about just that point.

To be fair to PJ, the only thing he ever did was be either staggeringly dishonest or staggeringly stupid, so it's hardly an isolated case.

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29-07-2014, 03:34 PM
RE: You have 10 seconds to name ONE contribution to the world made by a woman
(29-07-2014 03:29 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(29-07-2014 03:12 PM)cjlr Wrote:  Indeed. Every population will have a most recent common ancestor. That's inevitable statistics. This does not mean they have a single ultimate common ancestor.

I remember PleaseJesus once being confused staggeringly dishonest about just that point.

To be fair to PJ, the only thing he ever did was be either staggeringly dishonest or staggeringly stupid, so it's hardly an isolated case.

Well, there is that.

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29-07-2014, 07:43 PM
RE: You have 10 seconds to name ONE contribution to the world made by a woman
(29-07-2014 03:12 PM)cjlr Wrote:  
(29-07-2014 03:05 PM)morondog Wrote:  Ha, thanks. Just hadda go look it up now. She's not the ultimate Mama, she just the most recent common female ancestor of all humans, if I'm reading it right.

Indeed. Every population will have a most recent common ancestor. That's inevitable statistics. This does not mean they have a single ultimate common ancestor.

I remember PleaseJesus once being confused staggeringly dishonest about just that point.

'Every population' includes the entire population. We all have one common female ancestor, Mitochondrial Eve.

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29-07-2014, 10:52 PM (This post was last modified: 29-07-2014 10:55 PM by cjlr.)
RE: You have 10 seconds to name ONE contribution to the world made by a woman
(29-07-2014 07:43 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(29-07-2014 03:12 PM)cjlr Wrote:  Indeed. Every population will have a most recent common ancestor. That's inevitable statistics. This does not mean they have a single ultimate common ancestor.

I remember PleaseJesus once being confused staggeringly dishonest about just that point.

'Every population' includes the entire population. We all have one common female ancestor, Mitochondrial Eve.

Yes. That's what I said.

We all have innumerably many common ancestors, of whom there is necessarily one who is most recent.

The analysis behind the identical ancestry point is more interesting, I think, but less well known. Common ancestry does not imply a population bottleneck, is the point I was getting at.

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30-07-2014, 04:45 AM
RE: You have 10 seconds to name ONE contribution to the world made by a woman
(29-07-2014 10:52 PM)cjlr Wrote:  
(29-07-2014 07:43 PM)Chas Wrote:  'Every population' includes the entire population. We all have one common female ancestor, Mitochondrial Eve.

Yes. That's what I said.

We all have innumerably many common ancestors, of whom there is necessarily one who is most recent.

The analysis behind the identical ancestry point is more interesting, I think, but less well known. Common ancestry does not imply a population bottleneck, is the point I was getting at.

OK, it didn't read that way for me. Consider

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30-07-2014, 05:06 AM
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(29-07-2014 03:05 PM)morondog Wrote:  
(29-07-2014 02:57 PM)kim Wrote:  Mitochondiral Eve:

She's not the ultimate Mama,
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That would be an exploding star ... if we're to believe the astro-phys-mystics.

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30-07-2014, 05:17 AM
RE: You have 10 seconds to name ONE contribution to the world made by a woman
(30-07-2014 05:06 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(29-07-2014 03:05 PM)morondog Wrote:  She's not the ultimate Mama,
...

That would be an exploding star ... if we're to believe the astro-phys-mystics.

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30-07-2014, 06:40 AM
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I didn't come from no star!!

I find it curious that these "threat" threads by drive by posters are getting resurrected lately.

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30-07-2014, 12:57 PM
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(30-07-2014 06:40 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  I didn't come from no star!!

I find it curious that these "threat" threads by drive by posters are getting resurrected lately.

Google bait.

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10-08-2014, 08:28 AM
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