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01-09-2013, 12:06 PM
Youtube Censorship.
I am going to presume something may have happened at youtube at some point which has changed the boundaries of their censorship policies. To cut straight to the chase, in the past I have used various websites to watch some pretty extreme/graphic things. Like Zeta gang executions, war crimes (torture etc), road accidents etc etc. The reason why I occasionally watch these things is probably best discussed in another thread, however I have noticed that recently, some of these things are appearing on youtube.

I understand that youtube relies on the community to flag videos that are deemed as inappropriate. I imagine that these flagged videos may be viewed and reviewed to certain guidelines and I would say that as close last year, you would not see anything that you do now (at least not in the numbers that are on there at this moment in time)

For me I would logically presume that either...

A: The community is not flagging videos anymore and hence they are not coming to the attention of youtube.
B: The community is flagging videos but youtube are allowing them to stay.

I understand that times change. Films that were once banned for video/DVD release, like "The exorcist", "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and "A clockwork orange" are now available to buy. They were banned because at the time the censorship authorities deemed it necessary and I think if many people watched them now they would wonder what all the fuss was about.

So I am wondering about the future of these things??? Youtube is one of the most popular sites on the internet and whilst you will need an account to watch some of the videos I have mentioned, there is no real age verification for these accounts (Like with a phone company, to enable certain content you will need to either go into a shop with ID or use a credit/Debit card)

Some of the videos are so graphic I would not even post them here, because I know they would get removed.

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01-09-2013, 12:15 PM
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I would be nice to think that the youtube morality-watch have realised there is cultural- and therefore offense- relativity.

I.e. why should judeo-christian-puritan moral values be imposed on the French or Japanese regarding e.g. nudity?

I suspect it's just an oversight though.

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01-09-2013, 12:32 PM
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Either people aren't flagging the videos or the staff aren't doing their jobs. From what I've seen, the application of their rules is inconsistent and their staff is incredibly lazy and incompetent, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter. I doubt it is a rule change, since videos are regularly removed for far less nudity and graphic detail. Even cartoon lactating male nipples are removed and earn you a strike against your account, apparently.

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01-09-2013, 12:35 PM
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(01-09-2013 12:32 PM)Elesjei Wrote:  Either people aren't flagging the videos or the staff aren't doing their jobs. From what I've seen, the application of their rules is inconsistent and their staff is incredibly lazy and incompetent, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter. I doubt it is a rule change, since videos are regularly removed for far less nudity and graphic detail. Even cartoon lactating male nipples are removed and earn you a strike against your account, apparently.

Apparently?

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01-09-2013, 01:06 PM
RE: Youtube Censorship.
YouTube didn't like the unblurred version.

http://youtu.be/KPtUlXK56Es

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01-09-2013, 01:45 PM
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Youtube doesn't take down horrible videos because they aren't being flagged, but they take down thousands of videos with improper music files used in them (even if copyright is credited in the info box.)

Ok youtube.
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01-09-2013, 03:11 PM
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Youtube takes down videos based on algorithms rather than user flags... So people may be flagging less than before that kind of videos and the algorithms only look for copyright infringement.

But there's always been the weird part of youtube, and the porn part of youtube... the really ugly stuff are hard to find, but once you find it then it's easier to get lost in it...

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01-09-2013, 04:20 PM
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(01-09-2013 12:06 PM)bemore Wrote:  I am going to presume something may have happened at youtube at some point which has changed the boundaries of their censorship policies. To cut straight to the chase, in the past I have used various websites to watch some pretty extreme/graphic things. Like Zeta gang executions, war crimes (torture etc), road accidents etc etc. The reason why I occasionally watch these things is probably best discussed in another thread, however I have noticed that recently, some of these things are appearing on youtube.

I understand that youtube relies on the community to flag videos that are deemed as inappropriate. I imagine that these flagged videos may be viewed and reviewed to certain guidelines and I would say that as close last year, you would not see anything that you do now (at least not in the numbers that are on there at this moment in time)

For me I would logically presume that either...

A: The community is not flagging videos anymore and hence they are not coming to the attention of youtube.
B: The community is flagging videos but youtube are allowing them to stay.

I understand that times change. Films that were once banned for video/DVD release, like "The exorcist", "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and "A clockwork orange" are now available to buy. They were banned because at the time the censorship authorities deemed it necessary and I think if many people watched them now they would wonder what all the fuss was about.

So I am wondering about the future of these things??? Youtube is one of the most popular sites on the internet and whilst you will need an account to watch some of the videos I have mentioned, there is no real age verification for these accounts (Like with a phone company, to enable certain content you will need to either go into a shop with ID or use a credit/Debit card)

Some of the videos are so graphic I would not even post them here, because I know they would get removed.

YouTube relies less on flagging than on algorithms seeking out for things (mostly copy-written things).

And let's all be honest here: YouTube doesn't really care any more, so long as their asses aren't being up on the line by hosting copy-written material, which I suspect is a continually developing result of the Google take over, along with the forever changing Channel layouts and the changing Use Policies (Terms of Service) which are revised every few years (Once it was updated to included criticism of religion as hate-speech if I remember correctly).

I mean, if YouTube actually cared about it's users, they'd be investigating DMCA claims, which they never do, before taking down videos or releasing the information of the DMCA'd user (if they had done that, a bunch of Creationists and their bots on YouTube would be gone by now. and probably in jail). They care about protecting themselves financially, that's it, which is why Copy-written material gets more focus than videos calling for the deaths of whomever, hate-speech, hacking videos, videos of assaults etc.

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03-09-2013, 08:38 AM
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Strange! I thought they stepped up their censorship to stupid levels. YouTube added a "hate speech" policy to their guidelines, very recently. When you invoke such a vague policy, you're in for massive flagging from special interest groups.

Looks like they are taking down everything except what should actually be taken down.

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03-09-2013, 10:52 AM
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(03-09-2013 08:38 AM)No Mere Ape Wrote:  Strange! I thought they stepped up their censorship to stupid levels. YouTube added a "hate speech" policy to their guidelines, very recently. When you invoke such a vague policy, you're in for massive flagging from special interest groups.

Looks like they are taking down everything except what should actually be taken down.

Youtube is a budding flower of hate speech. Maybe they're becoming overwhelmed, or just lazy. Tongue
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