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16-03-2015, 05:14 PM
RE: abusive priest visits home of mine and my religious mother-in-law...
That's a nice way for a priest to express the "love" of christ.
I am sorry that I got no advice, I've never been in a situation like this because I live in a very quiet country where religions aren't taken very seriously.

I kinda wish I could get to experience some of this hatred I hear atheists around the world have to deal with to see how I would handle myself.
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17-03-2015, 01:29 PM
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(16-03-2015 02:49 PM)pablo Wrote:  I would have had a hard time not punching him right in the cocksucker.
Talk to your dad before you do anything, since you both have legal rights to the house.

I had it too... The priest was extremely impudent, wanted to heart my feelings badly a few times. Thanks, I am preparing to my talk with dad..
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17-03-2015, 01:45 PM
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(16-03-2015 02:55 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(16-03-2015 02:40 PM)fairness21 Wrote:  Hi. Could somebody write something regarding my situation?... I am from Ukraine, live here. With my dad and his new wife. When I came from abroad, my dad got remarried to a religious lady. I am myself an atheist. The religious wife of my dad and I communicated and got along rather well.

But here’s the situation. A priest has been visiting the religious wife of dad and conducting quite loud religious services. Sort of once a week. The last time he was here he talked to me and was very abusive, saying I have no rights in this house, I can’t decide anything in this house + calling me bad names.
As of now, the house belongs to 3 ppl, my dad, my brother and me (thru the way that I’m registered in the house and my brother and I were born here).

My questions: …
1. If my mother-in-law and dad both agree that it is ok for a priest to conduct regular loud religious services our house, can I still veto this decision of theirs on the grounds that my religious rights are violated?
2. Do I have a civil authority to request my mother-in-law and dad not to let this priest visiting house again on the grounds that he was abusive to me?

Thank you…

First welcome to our community.

Ummm call an attorney who would be far more qualified to answer questions about Ukrainian law, than probably anyone here.

What does your father say? How interested are you in making the best of your living arrangements? Can you just excuse yourself and leave the house during these visits? Or do you feel you shouldn't have to?

Lastly, how can you claim religious rights are being infringed upon when you admitted your an atheist?

Thx, I put it in the planner to do that.

Father is sort of in between. He was brainwashed by his wife, but he's not that religious. Does not really go to a church on Sundays unless the wife convinces him to once in a few months.

He is interested in making the best of my living arrangements as well as his wife's. He's got a bad temper making him a difficult person and egocentric too. Apart from concentrating first on what he wants, he does does try to make an effort to make the best to live in our place the best way...

I tried to negotiate with my mother-in-law to make it the way that priest comes when I am absent, say from 9 - 19 when I'm at work. She said she could not tell that, it's up to the priest when to come and the priest comes whenever he wants. That's how it's been, he would come irregularly. When the priest would come, I tried to leave the house unless I had a pressing issue to do or was sleeping. This last time I was asleep when he came early in the morning, woke me up and said a lot of abusive stuff...

I sort feel like shouldn't have to. Maybe I feel like I when in this home of 3 of us when a priest makes that loud service, he infringes my (human) rights to religious/atheist freedom. After a number such services it became very irritating to hear those...
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17-03-2015, 01:52 PM
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(16-03-2015 03:24 PM)Brian37 Wrote:  Crap this makes it worse when property is owned by more than one person. It would be much easier if only one of you had any part of it. Then the other could leave. I am not saying you have to disown them, and never visit them at all, but some people regardless of legal rights don't make good roommates.

Outside the issue of religion, my mom, as much as we love each other, don't make good roommates. We have way different habits. Don't really know what you should do. If you could get them to buy your share of the house out you could find another place of your own. Again, not to say disown them, but merely give them their own space.

Thanks... I try to save some money and move out. It's very difficult in Ukraine right now. Few people can afford to rent a new place and not live with the parents in the same home...

Maybe I am emotional here too. I feel like my human rights were infringed here too and I'm thinking of doing some justice, to stand for myself and my rights. To point the priest is doing wrong...
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17-03-2015, 01:57 PM
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(16-03-2015 03:43 PM)Gilgamesh Wrote:  The perfect retort to his verbal abuse is just "okay."

"You're a cretin and have no rights in this fine RELIGIOUS home, with these fine RELIGIOUS folk."

"Cool story, bro."

I was not offensive to the priest, but he just kept going being abusive. Alarming to read I have no rights in home...
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17-03-2015, 02:00 PM
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(16-03-2015 03:47 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Tell him you're in love with him, and want to take him to bed. Tongue

I might've said that in another country. In Ukraine, for a phrase like that you will be very much publicly condemned, 10 times more severely than say in the US, it seems to me... With all the consequences..
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17-03-2015, 02:02 PM
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Do you think he may think that there's a devil in you and is trying only simply trying to say "SATAN! YOU HAVE NO RIGHT HERE" and actually doesn't think that he's talking to you?
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17-03-2015, 02:05 PM
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(16-03-2015 04:48 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(16-03-2015 02:40 PM)fairness21 Wrote:  Hi. Could somebody write something regarding my situation?... I am from Ukraine, live here. With my dad and his new wife. When I came from abroad, my dad got remarried to a religious lady. I am myself an atheist. The religious wife of my dad and I communicated and got along rather well.

But here’s the situation. A priest has been visiting the religious wife of dad and conducting quite loud religious services. Sort of once a week. The last time he was here he talked to me and was very abusive, saying I have no rights in this house, I can’t decide anything in this house + calling me bad names.
As of now, the house belongs to 3 ppl, my dad, my brother and me (thru the way that I’m registered in the house and my brother and I were born here).

My questions: …
1. If my mother-in-law and dad both agree that it is ok for a priest to conduct regular loud religious services our house, can I still veto this decision of theirs on the grounds that my religious rights are violated?
2. Do I have a civil authority to request my mother-in-law and dad not to let this priest visiting house again on the grounds that he was abusive to me?

Thank you…

I have no idea what your legal rights are, but you need to tell that priest to go fuck himself.

Thanks. I wanted to, but I did not want to cause troubles to my mother-in-law maybe. Or not to go to the level of swearing thus to leave few things to say bad things about me (I was leading sort of perfect son for dad and mother-in-law life here, but the priest still found things to offend me). I am not sure totally if I should swear back. Having not sworn back I feel humiliated sort of..
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17-03-2015, 02:09 PM
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(17-03-2015 01:45 PM)fairness21 Wrote:  I sort feel like shouldn't have to. Maybe I feel like I when in this home of 3 of us when a priest makes that loud service, he infringes my (human) rights to religious/atheist freedom. After a number such services it became very irritating to hear those...

Then focus on the sound level. Talk to your step mom, and try to explan when she argues -- buy a stereo with really big speakers.

I don't know what else to say, your dad is your dad. Your step mom is his wife. It's not going to be easy without someone giving in.


But as if to knock me down, reality came around
And without so much as a mere touch, cut me into little pieces

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17-03-2015, 02:11 PM
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(16-03-2015 05:07 PM)Shadow Fox Wrote:  
(16-03-2015 02:40 PM)fairness21 Wrote:  Hi. Could somebody write something regarding my situation?... I am from Ukraine, live here. With my dad and his new wife. When I came from abroad, my dad got remarried to a religious lady. I am myself an atheist. The religious wife of my dad and I communicated and got along rather well.

But here’s the situation. A priest has been visiting the religious wife of dad and conducting quite loud religious services. Sort of once a week. The last time he was here he talked to me and was very abusive, saying I have no rights in this house, I can’t decide anything in this house + calling me bad names.
As of now, the house belongs to 3 ppl, my dad, my brother and me (thru the way that I’m registered in the house and my brother and I were born here).

My questions: …
1. If my mother-in-law and dad both agree that it is ok for a priest to conduct regular loud religious services our house, can I still veto this decision of theirs on the grounds that my religious rights are violated?
2. Do I have a civil authority to request my mother-in-law and dad not to let this priest visiting house again on the grounds that he was abusive to me?

Thank you…


1. No, not a chance. Sorry kid. You are basically like a slave to your parents until you turn 18 and move into your own home.

2. You are going to need to be more specific. Tell us exactly what he is doing. If he is physically abusive in a harmful way, than by all means, call the cops and tell them about it, then tell them your parents are also abusing you by allowing him to act this way.

3. Sit down and tell your parents about your dislike for the abuse, tell them that while its fine if he comes over and all, he cannot be abusive and treat you badly, because it is also your home as well as theirs. Your dad should be the one you target since the step mom probably doesn't care about you in the least bit. She probably just sees you as a third wheel she will be glade its gone when you move out or forced out on your 18th birthday.

4. If none of that works. Your pretty well screwed until your old enough to move out. Of course, if he ever does turn violent against you. I am pretty sure turning a knife on him is legal in whatever country your in. Or a gun....but that should only be in the most extreme of cases if its true physical harm like he attacks you with fists or starts to slap you.


1. I am afraid I'm 30. For over a year in Ukraine, back from abroad I still can't afford to move out to rent a place on my own (still saving)...

2. Oh he wasn't physically abusive, just by words.

3. Thx a lot for this passage. I think I'm gonna say that...
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