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28-11-2012, 06:53 AM
RE: atheist or just anti-THAT god
(28-11-2012 06:35 AM)chandrashakti Wrote:  I am trying to figure out how to explain my conception of the divine... let me try it this way... Have you seen Carl Sagan's explaination of the fourth dimension by talking about two dimensional beings that are visited by a three dimensional being? Recall that the three dimensional being was easily able to enter the closed locked two dimensional room. The other 2D beings said "Where is your proof. I don't see any evidence of this thing you are telling me about." My conception of the divine encompasses the entire multiverse plus. Science now recognizes that there are many dimensions. I propose that those theoretical unicorns discussed earlier in the thread are Nth dimensional beings. Therefore they would leave no evidence of their existence in the 3D world. So no my gods are not creators or redeemers. They are my attempts to make something vast and incomprehensive approachable. They're are a lot like a planetarium... it to a limited degree participates in the universe, but more importantly it helps to make the cosmos approachable and comprehensible. Heck in some ways my personal gods might even be like those glow-in-the-dark stars you can put in kids rooms. In some small way they contain the stuff of what they represent but in a much more approachable, domesticated way. If the divine as a whole is a creator, it creates the way we create turds. We are not aware of the making. We may be aware of the excretion, but so long as it doesnt sit around stinking we pay no attention to our creation afterward.
You can make ideas about how you feel or what you think and compare it to things all day long. At the end of the day there is a reality check: "How do you know?"

You can talk about how you accept scientific evidence. But I think the largest difference between us that you haven't mentioned is that we tend to care more about what's true, than what sounds good to us. I mean no insult by that, but at the end of the day if you cannot well explain how you know this and you cannot verify or justify it then are you justified in believing your "idea of things" or "how it's like a 4th dimension" or "how things can't leave their presence" - if something cannot leave a presence, how do you know it ever existed in the first place unless you're thinking it up or using wishful thinking?

Again, unexplained things remain unexplained. Why insert something unnecessary to explain them. This defeats scientific explanation in full. You can use the "I think there are things bigger than us" argument all day but again... "How do you know?"
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RE: atheist or just anti-THAT god - Vosur - 25-11-2012, 05:32 PM
RE: atheist or just anti-THAT god - DLJ - 25-11-2012, 06:01 PM
RE: atheist or just anti-THAT god - amyb - 25-11-2012, 06:12 PM
RE: atheist or just anti-THAT god - amyb - 25-11-2012, 08:48 PM
RE: atheist or just anti-THAT god - Vosur - 25-11-2012, 06:42 PM
RE: atheist or just anti-THAT god - amyb - 25-11-2012, 06:42 PM
RE: atheist or just anti-THAT god - Julius - 25-11-2012, 08:07 PM
RE: atheist or just anti-THAT god - Logisch - 28-11-2012 06:53 AM
RE: atheist or just anti-THAT god - Vosur - 28-11-2012, 08:02 AM
RE: atheist or just anti-THAT god - Vosur - 28-11-2012, 02:35 PM
RE: atheist or just anti-THAT god - Vosur - 28-11-2012, 03:14 PM
RE: atheist or just anti-THAT god - Chas - 29-11-2012, 08:59 AM
RE: atheist or just anti-THAT god - Vosur - 29-11-2012, 08:57 AM
RE: atheist or just anti-THAT god - Chas - 29-11-2012, 09:01 AM

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