(29-11-2012 12:53 AM)chandrashakti Wrote: Ok, I am noticing three distinct strains of atheism. The first is "Whatever, just keep your god out of our politics." This strain is one I greatly respect and can work side by side with.
The second is "Wow that's odd, let me poke and prod that and see if I can figure that out." This is the strain I have the most in common with. Thus my starting this thread in the first place.
The third seems to regard any unsubstantiated belief as a mental illness to be stamped out. I think of that strain as fundamentalist atheism, because they share a very obnoxious trait with fundamentalists of other stripes. ie: "you all do not see things the way I do, therefore what the **** is wrong with you people."
Then again I see two distinctly different Christian gods. The first I will refer to as Yahweh. He is the kind, loving, gentle father. He would never send anyone much short of Jeffrey Dahmer or Timothy MacVeigh to hell. This is the god I was raised with.
The other, Jehovah, is the target rich bastard many atheists are fond of skewering, and rightly so. This is the god which will send anyone who puts one toe out of line straight to hell.
Arguing against that god using logic will never work, as many people have already concluded. One needs to use their "literal" interpretation of their holy book against them. But remember the KISS principle. Just ask them WHICH creation they believe in. There are two distinct creations in Genesis, with different orders of creation. They cannot both be believed literally.
The first is not atheism, it is secularism.
The fourth is "There is no evidence for any gods, therefore I don't believe any exist". No anger, no angst, no anti anything.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method