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02-09-2013, 12:27 AM
RE: evolution
(01-09-2013 08:28 PM)theword Wrote:  
(01-09-2013 06:48 PM)ShirubaDangan Wrote:  TheWord's ignorance knows no bounds. I am going to demand from all humans an apology from all the diseases they helped perpetuate! It is all their fault!

You do realize how pathetic your argument is here right? Chas is correct in the fact the disease came from chimps and eventually infected us through hunting and eating their infected meat.

http://www.theaidsinstitute.org/node/259

So we must blame chimps and demand an apology immediately! Or you know, God didn't have to develop a disease which would eventually affect humans and destroy their immune system... Just saying.

Now your ignorance is so blatant here that I don't even believe you even know remotely about anything you talked about anymore. Where are the Christian's apologizing for slaying the Canaanites or what about flooding the planet? Where is that apology? Angry

Note: Definitive answer will definitely be 'God can kill humans just for the heck of it and murdering babies is justified'
Thanks Stevil for keeping the streak going. See, not one of you have any sympathy for the 8000 people a day that die from aids. Now you see why the world does not trust atheists. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2011/...new-study/

I agree with DLJ although I find theword's reading less than supbar though >.> Teasing aside my name is not Stevil D: I don't know if I should be flattered or saddened by being referred by that but regardless I do sympathize with people who suffer from AIDs. I believe it to be quite saddening (and hope to study in the medical field) but to believe that people do not trust atheists because of some disease is false. People don't trust atheists because of our lack of belief but I believe that isn't something they should use to determine trust. Not all atheists are bad as well as not all Christian's are good. I guarantee you probably ate food an atheist has grown or seen a doctor who is an atheist or used a machine an atheist built. In the end we are still human and we actually aren't much different from you at all.

You said I had no sympathy but I do. I believe some of those that do not are the Catholic church I once belonged to. They demonized the use of condoms in Africa and have let countless to die of the disease. Also having numerous children become orphans as well. I don't see them valuing human life with that decision but do all Catholics believe that? No, there is a Catholic group that believes otherwise but because of that religious view it has done harm against humans.

20,000 people a day die from cancer. Do you not sympathize with them? Do they not trust theists? Should they demand an apology from theists for the disease? That is how silly your argument sounds. We provided for you that you were factually wrong and we received the disease from Chimpanzee's. You have yet to change your view on such an event and probably still think homosexuals should apologize for something they did not do. The disease doesn't care who anyone is and it affects any person the same.

Religious or otherwise.

Now the poll to me is mute. Of course people who want to believe in a God not want to trust those that don't but I know of religions not trusting each other as well. We used to think the same of race or culture and some still do but I hope we can get past that. Open mindedness would be helpful especially in places where equal rights to women or homosexuals are still looked down upon.

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02-09-2013, 07:06 AM
RE: evolution
(01-09-2013 08:25 PM)theword Wrote:  
(01-09-2013 05:13 PM)Chas Wrote:  You are blinded by your crazy delusions. Do you really think that AIDS is confined to homosexuals or somehow caused by homosexuals? It is a virus that came from chimpanzees, and before that from monkeys.

Do you really believe that your "Christian love" is somehow better or more real than what an atheist feels? You are an ignoramus and your delusions are insulting and sadly mistaken.

You are a blight here.
More denial Chas. Homosexuality spread and is spreading the AIDS virus, many homosexuals were killed and many more are being killed because of this dreaded disease. It's a shame, and even a bigger shame that you wont admit it.

You are truly ignorant and seem to revel in it. You are a sad, deluded, ignorant sod who won't even look at facts.

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02-09-2013, 09:05 AM
RE: evolution
(02-09-2013 07:06 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(01-09-2013 08:25 PM)theword Wrote:  More denial Chas. Homosexuality spread and is spreading the AIDS virus, many homosexuals were killed and many more are being killed because of this dreaded disease. It's a shame, and even a bigger shame that you wont admit it.

You are truly ignorant and seem to revel in it. You are a sad, deluded, ignorant sod who won't even look at facts.
The streak is still going. Not a single atheist/homosexual takes any moral responsibility for 8000 people dying of AIDS (formerly GRID- Gay-related Immune Deficiency) each day.
Sad you people have no ethics, conscious, or morals to live by.
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02-09-2013, 09:08 AM
RE: evolution
(01-09-2013 08:28 PM)theword Wrote:  Thanks Stevil for keeping the streak going. See, not one of you have any sympathy for the 8000 people a day that die from aids. Now you see why the world does not trust atheists. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2011/...new-study/
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...tn-theword
Why you ducking a direct call out?

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02-09-2013, 10:22 AM
RE: evolution
(02-09-2013 09:05 AM)theword Wrote:  
(02-09-2013 07:06 AM)Chas Wrote:  You are truly ignorant and seem to revel in it. You are a sad, deluded, ignorant sod who won't even look at facts.
The streak is still going. Not a single atheist/homosexual takes any moral responsibility for 8000 people dying of AIDS (formerly GRID- Gay-related Immune Deficiency) each day.
Sad you people have no ethics, conscious, or morals to live by.

Does a muslim living in Malaysia or Indonesia in a tolerant society, getting on with their normal lives and minding their own business take responsibility for 9/11?
Do you take responsibility for the Spanish Inquisition, the deaths due to the christian policy that condoms are evil or the encouragement of parents in Nigeria to treat the wayward as witches or your pedophile priests?

Of course not.

You have the same fears and bigotries due to your 'in-group' mentality but you are not personally responsible for these atrocities.

You have received many replies regarding ethics and morality and there are at least two live threads on this subject on this forum. You are welcome to join in with those discussions.

Interestingly, you are choosing not to register or acknowledge the information you are receiving.

For information to become knowledge requires both understanding and context.

Please gives us some clues as to how we can help you with this context and understanding.

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Were you home schooled by your single parent?
Did you father leave your mother to live with another man?
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Please give us some basic details (nothing too personal, obviously) and we might be able to help you through the fear you are experiencing.

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02-09-2013, 10:46 AM
RE: evolution
(02-09-2013 10:22 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(02-09-2013 09:05 AM)theword Wrote:  The streak is still going. Not a single atheist/homosexual takes any moral responsibility for 8000 people dying of AIDS (formerly GRID- Gay-related Immune Deficiency) each day.
Sad you people have no ethics, conscious, or morals to live by.

Does a muslim living in Malaysia or Indonesia in a tolerant society, getting on with their normal lives and minding their own business take responsibility for 9/11?
Do you take responsibility for the Spanish Inquisition, the deaths due to the christian policy that condoms are evil or the encouragement of parents in Nigeria to treat the wayward as witches or your pedophile priests?

Of course not.

You have the same fears and bigotries due to your 'in-group' mentality but you are not personally responsible for these atrocities.

You have received many replies regarding ethics and morality and there are at least two live threads on this subject on this forum. You are welcome to join in with those discussions.

Interestingly, you are choosing not to register or acknowledge the information you are receiving.

For information to become knowledge requires both understanding and context.

Please gives us some clues as to how we can help you with this context and understanding.

Perhaps if you explained some of your background, education, the culture and traditions in which you were raised, we might be able to find examples that fit a context you might understand.

For example, are you from a broken home?
Were you home schooled by your single parent?
Did you father leave your mother to live with another man?
Were you sexually abused as a child?
Was it an authority figure who abused you?

Please give us some basic details (nothing too personal, obviously) and we might be able to help you through the fear you are experiencing.

Thumbsup

No pressure, take your time.
For example, are you from a broken home?.......................No
Were you home schooled by your single parent?................No
Did you father leave your mother to live with another man?..No
Were you sexually abused as a child?.................................No
Was it an authority figure who abused you?........................No
Is the streak still going that homosexuals avoid any remorse,
sympathy, for killing 8000 people per day that they helped
contribute to?..................................................................Yes
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02-09-2013, 11:07 AM
RE: evolution
(02-09-2013 09:05 AM)theword Wrote:  
(02-09-2013 07:06 AM)Chas Wrote:  You are truly ignorant and seem to revel in it. You are a sad, deluded, ignorant sod who won't even look at facts.
The streak is still going. Not a single atheist/homosexual takes any moral responsibility for 8000 people dying of AIDS (formerly GRID- Gay-related Immune Deficiency) each day.
Sad you people have no ethics, conscious, or morals to live by.

You think that a being that can create energy, matter, DNA, gravity, and the rest of universe gives a shit about some random species on a miniscule planet? And you think it cares what we do with our body parts?

LMFAO

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02-09-2013, 11:22 AM
RE: evolution
(02-09-2013 10:46 AM)theword Wrote:  
(02-09-2013 10:22 AM)DLJ Wrote:  Does a muslim living in Malaysia or Indonesia in a tolerant society, getting on with their normal lives and minding their own business take responsibility for 9/11?
Do you take responsibility for the Spanish Inquisition, the deaths due to the christian policy that condoms are evil or the encouragement of parents in Nigeria to treat the wayward as witches or your pedophile priests?

Of course not.

You have the same fears and bigotries due to your 'in-group' mentality but you are not personally responsible for these atrocities.

You have received many replies regarding ethics and morality and there are at least two live threads on this subject on this forum. You are welcome to join in with those discussions.

Interestingly, you are choosing not to register or acknowledge the information you are receiving.

For information to become knowledge requires both understanding and context.

Please gives us some clues as to how we can help you with this context and understanding.

Perhaps if you explained some of your background, education, the culture and traditions in which you were raised, we might be able to find examples that fit a context you might understand.

For example, are you from a broken home?
Were you home schooled by your single parent?
Did you father leave your mother to live with another man?
Were you sexually abused as a child?
Was it an authority figure who abused you?

Please give us some basic details (nothing too personal, obviously) and we might be able to help you through the fear you are experiencing.

Thumbsup

No pressure, take your time.
For example, are you from a broken home?.......................No
Were you home schooled by your single parent?................No
Did you father leave your mother to live with another man?..No
Were you sexually abused as a child?.................................No
Was it an authority figure who abused you?........................No
Is the streak still going that homosexuals avoid any remorse,
sympathy, for killing 8000 people per day that they helped
contribute to?..................................................................Yes

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For the last question it is obviously no. You have no sympathy with homosexuals with the disease obviously and you choose to misinform yourself that they were the original ones to get the AIDs although humans got it way before that and it was definitely much more likely from straight males who unfortunately ate the tainted meat of a chimpanzee but of course you will choose to delude yourself for no other reason to validate your hatred for homosexuals.

Jesus would totally do that.

Actually Jesus would definitely create a virus only for gays although it infects all people of all sorts of life? So maybe he just hates people?

So what are you doing to help? Oh yea, you are hating gays like that will possibly change anything with the disease. I don't think some AID's patients would even agree with your useless and hate filled endeavor instead of searching for a cure or funding aids research you simply blame people. You should definitely be a model human being with that ideal.

Now you say its a gay related disease? You know what is more interesting? Lesbians are the least likely to transmit the disease. Actually within the United States we do not have any women recorded who solely transferred the virus due to having sex with other women. Actually most risk factors for them is having sex with males or injection drug use. So you must apologize to all the lesbians for potentially spreading the disease.

We found the truth, God just wants more lesbians.

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02-09-2013, 08:40 PM
RE: evolution
(02-09-2013 10:46 AM)theword Wrote:  ...
For example, are you from a broken home?.......................No
Were you home schooled by your single parent?................No
Did you father leave your mother to live with another man?..No
Were you sexually abused as a child?.................................No
Was it an authority figure who abused you?........................No
Is the streak still going that homosexuals avoid any remorse,
sympathy, for killing 8000 people per day that they helped
contribute to?..................................................................Yes

Thank you for replying and with such openness.
If I can be momentarily semantic... remorse and sympathy (and all instinctive emotions) can not be 'avoided'.


(02-09-2013 11:22 AM)ShirubaDangan Wrote:  ...
We found the truth, God just wants more lesbians.

Don't we all, sir, don't we all?

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02-09-2013, 08:56 PM
RE: evolution
(02-09-2013 10:46 AM)theword Wrote:  Is the streak still going that homosexuals avoid any remorse,
sympathy, for killing 8000 people per day that they helped
contribute to?..................................................................Yes

You forget that GOD is killing all those people. He could prevent it at any moment ( omnipotence remember?). God, being omnicient, would have been aware of every event that would result from the act of creation. Original sin, murder, rape, theft, you name it, GOD is the prime mover. With omniscience, we can only conclude that GOD wants those 8,000 people a day to die of AIDS. To argue otherwise is to claim the omnipotent YHWH is incapable of creating the world to his own satisfaction (impotent not omnipotent). If GAAAAAWD created this world, it is as he wanted it to be. If "He" wanted it otherwise his omniscience would have led him to a course of action resulting in success.
The "god" of the bible ( or any gods for that matter) continually fails to achieve his goals. Wouldn't an omnipotent creator get it right? He continually fails to inspire his own people ( the Israelites) to behave. Wouldn't an omniscient lawgiver know the words to use to touch the hearts of mankind? Instead we get a litany of complaining, whining, threats, and temper tantrums for His incompetence.

Why do you continue to worship this delusion?

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