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06-10-2016, 01:30 AM
RE: faith....is a gift?
No god, no faith.

Tomorrow is precious, don't ruin it by fouling up today.
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06-10-2016, 10:16 AM
RE: faith....is a gift?
If it's a gift, I'd like to return it Wink
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06-10-2016, 10:17 AM
RE: faith....is a gift?
The gift that keeps giving....

Sorta like herpes.................

Confused

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The difference between prayer and masturbation - is when a guy is through masturbating - he has something to show for his efforts.
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06-10-2016, 10:32 AM
RE: faith....is a gift?
These are all better gifts than faith. More useful too.

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06-10-2016, 10:33 AM
RE: faith....is a gift?
(05-10-2016 05:59 PM)jason197754 Wrote:  As a recovering Catholic..I've heard apologists say that faith is a gift from God...but that God only gives the gift of faith to the humble and to people who ask God for it....and I've also heard them say that people receive the gift of faith when they are/get baptized.....and I've also heard the apologists say that faith and belief is a choice.....so many frikin' contradictions.....

What apologists—and theists in general—have to say about faith or the lack thereof is totally without any logical meaning. Just ignore them, and don't overthink it.

I'm a creationist... I believe that man created God.
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07-10-2016, 08:39 AM
RE: faith....is a gift?
(05-10-2016 05:59 PM)jason197754 Wrote:  As a recovering Catholic..Ive heard apologists say thay faith is a gift from God...but that God only gives the gift of faith to the humble and to people who ask God for it....and Ive also heard them say that people recieve the gift of faith when they are/get baptized.....and Ive also heard the apologists say that faith and belief isca choice.....so many frikin' contradictions.....

Faith is a gift much in the way that syphilis is a gift. It may have been fun how you contracted it but over time, it goes through phases and rots your insides.

"If we are honest—and scientists have to be—we must admit that religion is a jumble of false assertions, with no basis in reality.
The very idea of God is a product of the human imagination."
- Paul Dirac
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02-07-2017, 04:24 PM
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(05-10-2016 05:59 PM)jason197754 Wrote:  As a recovering Catholic..Ive heard apologists say thay faith is a gift from God...

That's right (Eph 2:8-9). Roman Catholicism is works-based (Jud 11). [Image: your_dead.gif]
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02-07-2017, 11:27 PM
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(02-07-2017 04:24 PM)serpentdove Wrote:  That's right (Eph 2:8-9). Roman Catholicism is works-based (Jud 11). [Image: your_dead.gif]

Can I maybe hear the sound of the troll exterminator fast approaching in the distance....?

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03-07-2017, 01:01 AM
RE: faith....is a gift?
What an absurd idea.

What happened to our free will? If we get our minds sand-blasted with this gift of faith, we'll just believe whatever fairy tale we happen to be told first.

I find it really sad that people revel in the idea of being mindless zombies.

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03-07-2017, 01:50 AM
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“The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason.” (Benjamin Franklin) Consider
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