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10-06-2016, 12:53 AM
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(10-06-2016 12:05 AM)aserwin Wrote:  You can't just throw around words without understanding perspective.

Says the man starting his post with "before the big bang" Dodgy

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10-06-2016, 05:16 AM
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(10-06-2016 12:05 AM)aserwin Wrote:  
Quote:So god got up one morning 13.8 billion or 6,000 years ago and just created a universe?

No. Because before the big bang, time (or space-time, as Einstein described it) didn't exist... so, what you perceive as trillions of years could have passed the second before the big bang... or, whatever existed before the big bang could have just popped into existence and existed for trillions of years in what we perceive as one second before the big bang...

See, you are assuming that TIME is this everlasting thing that always existed. Time is just one element of our universe! And according to most physicists, didn't even exist in the first few plank times of our universe. So, in reality, the first 2 or 3 plank times of our universe could have been what we perceive as million or billions or even trillions of years.

You can't just throw around words without understanding perspective.

How do (3 or 4 Planck times) exist before time? Facepalm

Bonus question: Since it would take some time for god to wave his magic wand to create everything, how would he do this before time existed?

Bonus consideration: Maybe you're loading unwarranted assumptions into the beginnings of the universe, maybe it's an assumption to even say it had a beginning, maybe the honest think to say is you don't really know. Thumbsup

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10-06-2016, 05:36 AM
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(24-04-2016 10:58 PM)Alla Wrote:  No, God didn't just woke up one morning and decided to create Universe(whatever it is according to you)
God was learning first how to do this. All this time before He created Universe(whatever it is according to you) God was busy doing other things.
It takes long, long time to become God of the Universe(whatever it is according to you)

And the moon is made of green cheese.

You actually buy that garbage ?
Busy doing what ?

You are not a theist.
Whatever that thing is, you call "God", meets NONE of the definitions.

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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10-06-2016, 05:38 AM (This post was last modified: 10-06-2016 05:49 AM by Bucky Ball.)
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(10-06-2016 12:05 AM)aserwin Wrote:  And according to most physicists, didn't even exist in the first few plank times of our universe.

Bullshit. Prove it.
The assertion is meaningless. First of all, how about learning the correct spelling. His name was PLANCK, not Plank. Laugh out load

Think about the utter stupidity what he just said.
He just said "time didn't exist until a few units in, where time was already running. So time is running already 2 Planck units (not "Plank times") when time starts.
Dude is fucking hilarious.
Dude is a charlatan, and a complete fraud. Doesn't know Logic, and certainly doesn't know any real Physics.

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10-06-2016, 06:33 AM
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(24-04-2016 10:58 PM)Alla Wrote:  God was learning first how to do this.

From whom, or what, could such a powerful entity learn, pray tell?

Regardless of your answer, doesn't the question raise problems of infinite regression?

God does not work in mysterious ways — he works in ways that are indistinguishable from his non-existence.
Jesus had a pretty rough weekend for your sins.
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10-06-2016, 11:31 AM
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(24-04-2016 10:58 PM)Alla Wrote:  No, God didn't just woke up one morning and decided to create Universe(whatever it is according to you)
God was learning first how to do this. All this time before He created Universe(whatever it is according to you) God was busy doing other things.
It takes long, long time to become God of the Universe(whatever it is according to you)

um please provide evidence for the above statements.

1) God created the Universe
2) What "other things" was God doing?
3) Is there an internship or a normal time to "become God of the Universe"? Explain how you know that "It takes long, long time (sic)"?

Reading the long time comment has me mentally hearing "love you long time"

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10-06-2016, 12:05 PM
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God couldn't get an extension on his project and didn't want to fail the course. He pulled an all-nighter and this is what came out. That's why we're stuck in a C- universe: procrastination.
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13-06-2016, 01:01 PM
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(25-03-2016 08:27 AM)god has no twitter account Wrote:  So god got up one morning 13.8 billion or 6,000 years ago and just created a universe?

Really?

Why on that particular day 6,000/13.8 billion years ago?

It gets weirder than that.

If God created all things and God is eternal, then, by very definition, there was an infinite amount of time when there was just God, and nothing else.

So, it's not so much that "God got up one day X years ago and created everything", but rather "God was sitting there twiddling his thumbs for infinity years, and then created everything". It doesn't matter how many years have gone by since, he was still sitting alone for infinity years.
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13-06-2016, 01:22 PM
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(10-06-2016 05:38 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(10-06-2016 12:05 AM)aserwin Wrote:  And according to most physicists, didn't even exist in the first few plank times of our universe.

Bullshit. Prove it.
The assertion is meaningless. First of all, how about learning the correct spelling. His name was PLANCK, not Plank. Laugh out load

Think about the utter stupidity what he just said.
He just said "time didn't exist until a few units in, where time was already running. So time is running already 2 Planck units (not "Plank times") when time starts.
Dude is fucking hilarious.
Dude is a charlatan, and a complete fraud. Doesn't know Logic, and certainly doesn't know any real Physics.

So let's assume that God walked the planck! OK then what?
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13-06-2016, 01:23 PM
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(10-06-2016 06:33 AM)claywise Wrote:  
(24-04-2016 10:58 PM)Alla Wrote:  God was learning first how to do this.

From whom, or what, could such a powerful entity learn, pray tell?

Regardless of your answer, doesn't the question raise problems of infinite regression?

We're back to turtles all the way down.
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