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18-03-2010, 03:19 PM
 
help! please.
I'm currently in a debate with a preacher over evolution. We are emailing each other back and forth. The argument is not heated, and the preacher is very much an intellectual.

My problem is this. I initially asked him to watch some youtube videos that outlined basic creationist arguments as well as evolution, but he said he didn't like how unscientific youtube videos were. He referenced several articles from reasons.org, a pro-creationist website that has many "scientific" articles doing their best to show how there aren't transitional fossils, how mathematically small the numbers are for the possibility of life anywhere in the universe but here, quote mining, etc.

My request is this. Are there any sites that are akin to this reasons.org, only that are more honest and scientifically sound?

As a side note, I do read peer reviewed scientifical articles. I do not, however, keep track of them. I feel it would be beneficial to my discussion as well as my growth in understanding to have a trusted base in which to quickly find relevant articles.

Thanks in advance and cheers!
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18-03-2010, 03:27 PM
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(18-03-2010 03:19 PM)osaka35 Wrote:  I'm currently in a debate with a preacher over evolution. We are emailing each other back and forth. The argument is not heated, and the preacher is very much an intellectual.

My problem is this. I initially asked him to watch some youtube videos that outlined basic creationist arguments as well as evolution, but he said he didn't like how unscientific youtube videos were. He referenced several articles from reasons.org, a pro-creationist website that has many "scientific" articles doing their best to show how there aren't transitional fossils, how mathematically small the numbers are for the possibility of life anywhere in the universe but here, quote mining, etc.

My request is this. Are there any sites that are akin to this reasons.org, only that are more honest and scientifically sound?

Oh, yes. This one: TalkOrigins.org. (That's a link, by the way)
I think you'll find it very helpful. It contains a database containing most, if not all, of the claims made by creationists with links to scientific articles debunking them, as well as some handy on-site explanations.
I hope you find it useful. I certainly do.

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18-03-2010, 03:40 PM
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Unbeliever beat me to the punch.... TalkOrigons.org is an amazing resource, thoroughly debunking any and every argument against evolution.

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18-03-2010, 05:46 PM
 
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Another great source is a number of YouTube users that, I believe, have some type of scientific background. They debunk creationist claims all over the place:

http://www.youtube.com/user/AronRa
http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t
http://www.youtube.com/user/DonExodus2
http://www.youtube.com/user/cdk007
http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54
http://www.youtube.com/user/Potholer54debunks

Hope these help.
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19-03-2010, 04:31 AM
 
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(18-03-2010 05:46 PM)supermanlives1973 Wrote:  Another great source is a number of YouTube users that, I believe, have some type of scientific background. They debunk creationist claims all over the place:

http://www.youtube.com/user/AronRa
http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t
http://www.youtube.com/user/DonExodus2
http://www.youtube.com/user/cdk007
http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54
http://www.youtube.com/user/Potholer54debunks

Hope these help.

Hahaha. I'm already subscribed to all of these, great channels. I love Thunderf00t's why do ppl laugh at creationists series, he kills me with his intellectual wit and thorough scientific ass rippings of Venomfangx, Kent Hovind, Ray Comfort and any other creationist trying to use pseudoscience to justify their absurd arguments.
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