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27-06-2013, 08:53 AM
how to change 37 states to accept same sex marriage
I was just reading an article on CNN about how the recent rulings really don't have much bearing on those that live in the 37 states that do not allow same sex marriages. Its a baby step overall, but on a personal level, nothing has changed for those in the anti-gay 37.

I got to thinking about it and wondered how much corporate America could play into changing these rules. States compete for businesses to relocate to their state with tax benefits, etc.

Do you think many of these companies will use the fact of whether or not a state is same sex marriage friendly or not into the equation when choosing a place. Can corporate America force some changes?

Most of you here are intelligent in the workings of politics and corporate America, just wondering what your thoughts are on this.

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27-06-2013, 09:42 AM
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(27-06-2013 08:53 AM)Bows and Arrows Wrote:  I was just reading an article on CNN about how the recent rulings really don't have much bearing on those that live in the 37 states that do not allow same sex marriages. Its a baby step overall, but on a personal level, nothing has changed for those in the anti-gay 37.

I got to thinking about it and wondered how much corporate America could play into changing these rules. States compete for businesses to relocate to their state with tax benefits, etc.

Do you think many of these companies will use the fact of whether or not a state is same sex marriage friendly or not into the equation when choosing a place. Can corporate America force some changes?

Most of you here are intelligent in the workings of politics and corporate America, just wondering what your thoughts are on this.

No. All companies are going to care about is the availability of resources and a tax friendly environment. The legal policies concerning same sex marriage? While they may not tolerate discrimination in the workplace, public policy in these states are out of their hands.

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27-06-2013, 09:47 AM
RE: how to change 37 states to accept same sex marriage
(27-06-2013 08:53 AM)Bows and Arrows Wrote:  I was just reading an article on CNN about how the recent rulings really don't have much bearing on those that live in the 37 states that do not allow same sex marriages. Its a baby step overall, but on a personal level, nothing has changed for those in the anti-gay 37.

I got to thinking about it and wondered how much corporate America could play into changing these rules. States compete for businesses to relocate to their state with tax benefits, etc.

Do you think many of these companies will use the fact of whether or not a state is same sex marriage friendly or not into the equation when choosing a place. Can corporate America force some changes?

Most of you here are intelligent in the workings of politics and corporate America, just wondering what your thoughts are on this.

The big point is that this and the language in the dismissal of Prop 8 will set precedent as more cases come up through the pipeline about a state's ability to deny same-sex marriage (NPR ran a story yesterday saying a case from Nevada may make it in a few years).

The rulings by the Supreme Court on interracial marriage didn't change things at the state-level overnight either, but it gets the wheels good and greased-up as the justices hurl us forward!

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27-06-2013, 10:55 AM
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(27-06-2013 09:47 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(27-06-2013 08:53 AM)Bows and Arrows Wrote:  I was just reading an article on CNN about how the recent rulings really don't have much bearing on those that live in the 37 states that do not allow same sex marriages. Its a baby step overall, but on a personal level, nothing has changed for those in the anti-gay 37.

I got to thinking about it and wondered how much corporate America could play into changing these rules. States compete for businesses to relocate to their state with tax benefits, etc.

Do you think many of these companies will use the fact of whether or not a state is same sex marriage friendly or not into the equation when choosing a place. Can corporate America force some changes?

Most of you here are intelligent in the workings of politics and corporate America, just wondering what your thoughts are on this.

The big point is that this and the language in the dismissal of Prop 8 will set precedent as more cases come up through the pipeline about a state's ability to deny same-sex marriage (NPR ran a story yesterday saying a case from Nevada may make it in a few years).

The rulings by the Supreme Court on interracial marriage didn't change things at the state-level overnight either, but it gets the wheels good and greased-up as the justices hurl us forward!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/hi...01_ZO.html
http://www.theroot.com/views/how-loving-case-changed-us

This ruling did in fact overturn the laws against interracial marriage by rendering them unconstitutional.

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27-06-2013, 11:41 AM
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Indeed, that eventually did happen. I don't believe the first time it was ruled upon was the decision your mention though.

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27-06-2013, 11:43 AM
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(27-06-2013 11:41 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Indeed, that eventually did happen. I don't believe the first time it was ruled upon was the decision your mention though.

I may be wrong here but I think Loving v Virginia was the first and only interracial marriage case to make it to the SCOTUS.

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27-06-2013, 11:52 AM
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It's very possible I'm wrong.

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27-06-2013, 12:15 PM
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(27-06-2013 11:43 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(27-06-2013 11:41 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Indeed, that eventually did happen. I don't believe the first time it was ruled upon was the decision your mention though.

I may be wrong here but I think Loving v Virginia was the first and only interracial marriage case to make it to the SCOTUS.

Nope.


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27-06-2013, 12:26 PM
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(27-06-2013 12:15 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(27-06-2013 11:43 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  I may be wrong here but I think Loving v Virginia was the first and only interracial marriage case to make it to the SCOTUS.

Nope.


Wikipedia Wrote:Pace v. Alabama, 106 U.S. 583 (1883), was a case in which the United States Supreme Court affirmed that Alabama's anti-miscegenation statute was constitutional. This ruling was overturned by the Supreme Court in 1964 in McLaughlin v. Florida and in 1967 in Loving v. Virginia.

Huh, learn something new everyday it seems.

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27-06-2013, 04:40 PM
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Isn't it so that if 30 states allow something that it can be rattified or something?

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