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08-05-2014, 06:50 PM
im 21 always believed until now
Hi my name is will, Im 21 and am a newly discovered atheist, yet I am scared of playing the quija lol, if the quija and bad spirits are real, god should be real? or is their really nothing supernatural at all just undiscovered science.
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08-05-2014, 07:02 PM
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Welcome, Will!! Spirits, ghosts, and such have just as much evidence for their existence as god himself (personal/anecdotal/debunkable). Oiuji away without worry Thumbsup

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08-05-2014, 07:05 PM
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The supernatural is by default not disprovable or provable.

That said, there's no good reason to believe anything asserted without evidence, and superstition has been disproved repeatedly by science.

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08-05-2014, 08:32 PM
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(08-05-2014 06:50 PM)willmartinez Wrote:  Hi my name is will, Im 21 and am a newly discovered atheist, yet I am scared of playing the quija lol, if the quija and bad spirits are real, god should be real? or is their really nothing supernatural at all just undiscovered science.

Welcome Will, as someone who used to do tarot card readings and play with quija boards, I can tell you it's all bs.

Especially when other people are around...someone is always driving the train and it's always human and explainable.


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And without so much as a mere touch, cut me into little pieces

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09-05-2014, 07:46 AM
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I'm pretty sure it's called "ouija," not "quija," by the way. Consider

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09-05-2014, 07:48 AM
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(09-05-2014 07:46 AM)Vosur Wrote:  I'm pretty sure it's called "ouija," not "quija," by the way. Consider

It is.

And it's a registered trademark, incidentally, because it was invented as a game and treated as such for decades before the spiritualists got their contaminating fingers all over it.

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09-05-2014, 08:01 AM
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(09-05-2014 07:48 AM)cjlr Wrote:  
(09-05-2014 07:46 AM)Vosur Wrote:  I'm pretty sure it's called "ouija," not "quija," by the way. Consider

It is.

And it's a registered trademark, incidentally, because it was invented as a game and treated as such for decades before the spiritualists got their contaminating fingers all over it.

Pretty sure it was always magic
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09-05-2014, 08:39 AM
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I picked up a lot of wooisms from my mother and a belief in reincarnation. When I went to university I made friends with someone who was into tarot and so I got into that as well. I always had a conditioned fear of oiuji boards though because whenever they would appear on TV in some ghost story, something bad would happen to the characters and my mother would mutter away saying things like how stupid it was to do such things.

I later found out that my grandmother, who was a spiritualist and claimed to be a medium and faith healer used to use a ouiji board. Every Saturday she'd have some friends over and they'd do their seances. My mother actually has psychological scars from growing up in that environment as an impressionable young girl because there was so much talk about ghosts and spirits constantly watching over us. She can't stay in a house alone at night. She actually feels safer being outside in the middle of a dark forest by herself at night than alone in a house.

Even though I know that it's all crap now and I have shed my woo-isms, I'm aware of how I am still conditioned to be more wary of a ouiji board than say divination using a pendulum even though they work in exactly the same way (subconscious micro- movements of your own muscles to give you the answer that you want or already believe in)
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09-05-2014, 09:01 AM
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(09-05-2014 07:46 AM)Vosur Wrote:  I'm pretty sure it's called "ouija," not "quija," by the way. Consider

Hmmm... Consider ...
Since it's fakery, anyway... can't we call it anything we want?

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09-05-2014, 09:04 AM
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(09-05-2014 09:01 AM)kim Wrote:  
(09-05-2014 07:46 AM)Vosur Wrote:  I'm pretty sure it's called "ouija," not "quija," by the way. Consider

Hmmm... Consider ...
Since it's fakery, anyway... can't we call it anything we want?

Wink

Ha - I'm just messing with you, Vosy.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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