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27-11-2014, 04:36 PM
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(26-11-2014 05:36 PM)Switz5678 Wrote:  A fine tuner stance is simple. At some point something interacted with what we call this Universe. This interaction placed a set of values on important interaction outcomes that allowed the formation of the Universe as we know it.

Except that there's zero evidence that even something this vague, and undefined actually happened.
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27-11-2014, 04:57 PM
RE: interested in the atheist perspective
(26-11-2014 05:36 PM)Switz5678 Wrote:  ........ A fine tuner stance is simple. At some point something interacted with what we call this Universe. This interaction placed a set of values on important interaction outcomes that allowed the formation of the Universe as we know it.

This is interesting. So, assuming your hypothesis is okay.

That still puts your designer 13 Billion years away from us in the past.

So... how or where then is the interaction AFTER the big kick off? Consider

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27-11-2014, 11:36 PM
RE: interested in the atheist perspective
(27-11-2014 02:17 PM)Vosur Wrote:  I like the way that Baron d'Holbach put it back in 1770:

"Suns are extinguished or become corrupted, planets perish and scatter across the wastes of the sky; other suns are kindled, new planets formed to make their revolutions or describe new orbits, and man, an infinitely minute part of a globe which itself is only an imperceptible point in the immense whole, believes that the universe is made for himself."

He didn't hold back at all... Big Grin

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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28-11-2014, 04:23 AM
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(27-11-2014 02:09 PM)cjlr Wrote:  Says the man using an emoticon.

What about the emoticon?

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28-11-2014, 04:41 AM
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(28-11-2014 04:23 AM)The Polyglot Atheist Wrote:  
(27-11-2014 02:09 PM)cjlr Wrote:  Says the man using an emoticon.

What about the emoticon?

When you said
Quote:Just... don't abuse italics and bold. Tongue
I don't think cjlr realized you were talking about his... hypothetical book and probably thought you were talking about the forum?

I mean, I don't even know if you were actually talking about that Tongue

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28-11-2014, 05:04 AM
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Yes I was referring to the book of course. Now I see, that would explain it. Tongue

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28-11-2014, 09:41 AM
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(28-11-2014 05:04 AM)The Polyglot Atheist Wrote:  Yes I was referring to the book of course. Now I see, that would explain it. Tongue

But of course. I don't write on other media how I write online. And I don't even write elsewhere online the way I do on this particular forum. I wouldn't write a book anything like the way I write a forum post...

... this is my signature!
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28-11-2014, 10:02 AM
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(28-11-2014 09:41 AM)cjlr Wrote:  
(28-11-2014 05:04 AM)The Polyglot Atheist Wrote:  Yes I was referring to the book of course. Now I see, that would explain it. Tongue

But of course. I don't write on other media how I write online. And I don't even write elsewhere online the way I do on this particular forum. I wouldn't write a book anything like the way I write a forum post...

Coming soon: "LOL WTF Knights who say NI! : Cjlr's guide to the universe"

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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30-11-2014, 02:05 AM
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(26-11-2014 11:14 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  Did you have a question about relative time references?

I know this is from way left field.

Do you think that time is effected by an observer? Sometimes I wonder... Double slit experiment. I have an unhealthy obsession with time it seemsShy
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30-11-2014, 02:12 AM
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(30-11-2014 02:05 AM)Switz5678 Wrote:  I know this is from way left field.

Do you think that time is effected by an observer? Sometimes I wonder... Double slit experiment. I have an unhealthy obsession with time it seemsShy

I'm pretty sure that time is not effected by observation (Though the clock sure does seem to run backwards the closer one gets towards knock off time. Tongue)

The double slit experiment is in regards to what electrons are doing/going through.... Not time, per-say.

Now... is relativity and hence time effected by gravity/velocity? Yes, we've verifiable proof of such things.

What that actually means though, is possibly something else again.

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