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12-05-2014, 05:58 PM
RE: it's your choice
(12-05-2014 04:38 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  You just gotta read the fine print and find a loophole. And there's always a loophole. My read of the Gospels is not some Holy Scripture to be worshiped but rather that of an instructional manual to being God. Not much different than the Buddha's Noble 8-fold Path. Or the Kama Sutra. Jesus was a bodhisattva.

Technically, the bible would be a contract of adhesion. Since god composed the language unilaterally, any ambiguity in meaning must be resolved in our favor, not his. Presumably, if he meant something more specific, he should have clearly said so.

Jesus is my Stalker: He has graced me with his unconditional love, but if I reject it and refuse to love him in return, he will make my life Hell.
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12-05-2014, 08:17 PM
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(12-05-2014 11:24 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(12-05-2014 11:08 AM)Leo Wrote:  ...
how many people Satan kills or harms ? Few if any Thumbsup

Satan dealt Job a blow or two!

Smartass

But he was only following orders.

And the story had a happy ending.

satan thru Hitler started ww2 and 93million people were killed..
satan thru stalin killed 20million of his own people
satan thru mao tse tung killed many millions of Chinese during his revolution
as did his predecessor chaing kai chek
there are a lot more, I don't have the time right now...Raphael1
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12-05-2014, 08:20 PM
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(12-05-2014 08:17 PM)Raphael1 Wrote:  
(12-05-2014 11:24 AM)DLJ Wrote:  Satan dealt Job a blow or two!

Smartass

But he was only following orders.

And the story had a happy ending.

satan thru Hitler started ww2 and 93million people were killed..
satan thru stalin killed 20million of his own people
satan thru mao tse tung killed many millions of Chinese during his revolution
as did his predecessor chaing kai chek
there are a lot more, I don't have the time right now...Raphael1

Seems to me that if Satan is that busy killing god needs to get busy with some saving. One of them appears to be an over-achiever.

See here they are the bruises some were self-inflicted and some showed up along the way. - JF
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12-05-2014, 08:22 PM
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(12-05-2014 11:28 AM)Anjele Wrote:  
(12-05-2014 08:35 AM)Anjele Wrote:  Didn't God tell Jesus he was going to die and be resurrected?

Maybe I am wrong, but if that's the case then it wasn't a prediction made by Jesus but rather the relaying of information.

Still wondering...anyone have an answer? It doesn't have to be from Skippy since he has ignored this any way.
Jesus is part of the trinity, father, son & holy spirit. He KNEW what he had to
do before he came here...Raphael1
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12-05-2014, 08:23 PM
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12-05-2014, 08:30 PM
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(12-05-2014 08:20 PM)Anjele Wrote:  
(12-05-2014 08:17 PM)Raphael1 Wrote:  satan thru Hitler started ww2 and 93million people were killed..
satan thru stalin killed 20million of his own people
satan thru mao tse tung killed many millions of Chinese during his revolution
as did his predecessor chaing kai chek
there are a lot more, I don't have the time right now...Raphael1

Seems to me that if Satan is that busy killing god needs to get busy with some saving. One of them appears to be an over-achiever.

God is most definitely in the business of saving.
but He also respects free will. This points back to the term "choice".
some people choose to do evil. People suffer...some people choose to do
good and good things happen....Raphael1
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12-05-2014, 08:33 PM
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(12-05-2014 08:30 PM)Raphael1 Wrote:  
(12-05-2014 08:20 PM)Anjele Wrote:  Seems to me that if Satan is that busy killing god needs to get busy with some saving. One of them appears to be an over-achiever.

God is most definitely in the business of saving.
but He also respects free will. This points back to the term "choice".
some people choose to do evil. People suffer...some people choose to do
good and good things happen....Raphael1

So satan can kill millions through individuals and god is bound to respect the free will of satan... And the free will of the millions who definitely want to die in a genocide.....

Wait, who's almighty again?

Atheism is the only way to truly be free from sin.
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12-05-2014, 08:37 PM
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(12-05-2014 01:18 PM)kim Wrote:  
(12-05-2014 07:33 AM)Raphael1 Wrote:  ---
If I was satisfied that all of you were going to hell, I would not be here,
enduring this verbal abuse while trying to win a few.
---

Not a Calvinist, huh? Shy
No, not a Calvinist..they hold with the concept of predestination of salvation.
In truth, we are ALL predestinated to be saved, only our "choice" can
screw that up. Theres that free will concept again...Raphael1
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12-05-2014, 08:39 PM
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(12-05-2014 08:30 PM)Raphael1 Wrote:  
(12-05-2014 08:20 PM)Anjele Wrote:  Seems to me that if Satan is that busy killing god needs to get busy with some saving. One of them appears to be an over-achiever.

God is most definitely in the business of saving.
but He also respects free will. This points back to the term "choice".
some people choose to do evil. People suffer...some people choose to do
good and good things happen....Raphael1

I just heard the song "The Wheels on the Bus Go 'Round and 'Round" in my head. Confused

See here they are the bruises some were self-inflicted and some showed up along the way. - JF
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12-05-2014, 08:43 PM
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