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28-11-2012, 10:41 AM
RE: lies or the truth?
I cannot remember the last time I lied with the intent to deceive someone.

Now, lying when someone asks how I'm doing and I reflexively say "great" even when I'm not great, yeah, but I know they aren't really interested - it was just a ritual greeting and a ritual response.

I also lie for entertainment, usually to tease someone. They pretty much always know I'm lying, but it's even more fun when they don't - but in the end I come clean because then it's funny to watch them realize that I was yanking their chain, pulling their leg, busting their balls, whatever you want to call it.

Occasionally I'll tell someone what they want to hear because I recognize that they've asked a rhetorical question and don't really want the truth, like when someone asks if the dress they're wearing makes them look fat - even if it does, they don't want to hear that. But even then, if it's someone I have any kind of relationship with beyond a casual acquaintance, I probably would try to gently let them know the truth, though I might downplay it a bit, soft sell the truth rather than smacking them in the face with it - they'll get the idea from there.

Those aren't deceptions.

As for lying to truly deceive someone, this I never do.

It's not a matter of ethics. I couldn't care less about ethics. It's a simple matter of the golden rule. I don't like being lied to, so I don't lie to others. Most people who know me recognize this fact about me, or they learn it, and many of them tell me that it's something they like about me, that they can always count on my honesty. Who knows, maybe they hate it and they're lying and I just can't tell, but I take them at their word.

Besides, what is a good reason to deceive someone? Usually it's because you've done something wrong and you want to hide that fact. You cheated on your spouse, were lazy at work, didn't complete an assignment, broke your parent's rules, whatever. Lying is almost always a self-preservation mechanism we use to cover up the fact that we screwed up.

I simply try not to screw up. I try to do the right thing. When I do screw up, I own up to it. This is especially easy because when I do screw up, it's usually either an honest mistake (as opposed to laziness or deliberate malfeasance) or was due, at least in part, to outside factors that I couldn't control - those cases are easy to admit and move on.

The only other good reason to lie is to control people. To con them into doing something they wouldn't do if you told them the truth. I don't treat people that way, again, for the golden rule.

So being honest with people is a choice I make, but it's also an easy one because I never really find myself presented with a reason to lie. At least, not a reason that's acceptable to me.

"Whores perform the same function as priests, but far more thoroughly." - Robert A. Heinlein
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lies or the truth? - Dom - 24-11-2012, 01:48 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - morondog - 24-11-2012, 02:24 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Chas - 24-11-2012, 02:28 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - morondog - 24-11-2012, 02:37 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Chas - 24-11-2012, 02:33 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Dom - 24-11-2012, 04:04 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Leela - 24-11-2012, 05:37 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Stark Raving - 24-11-2012, 05:42 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Chas - 24-11-2012, 05:49 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Stark Raving - 24-11-2012, 05:50 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - kingschosen - 25-11-2012, 12:26 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - thirdangletheory - 24-11-2012, 06:31 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Dom - 24-11-2012, 05:56 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - nach_in - 24-11-2012, 06:07 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - FZUMedia - 24-11-2012, 06:52 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - ddrew - 25-11-2012, 12:44 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - I and I - 25-11-2012, 04:07 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Dom - 25-11-2012, 04:18 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Vera - 25-11-2012, 04:26 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - I and I - 28-11-2012, 08:04 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - Vera - 28-11-2012, 08:20 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - Dom - 28-11-2012, 08:35 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - I and I - 28-11-2012, 09:07 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - earmuffs - 28-11-2012, 09:18 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - Dom - 28-11-2012, 10:02 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - DLJ - 25-11-2012, 04:32 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - bemore - 25-11-2012, 05:16 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Humakt - 28-11-2012, 08:59 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - Free Thought - 28-11-2012, 10:37 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - bemore - 28-11-2012, 10:41 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - Aseptic Skeptic - 28-11-2012 10:41 AM
lies or the truth? - Erxomai - 28-11-2012, 11:19 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - Vera - 28-11-2012, 11:28 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - Stark Raving - 28-11-2012, 11:36 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - Aseptic Skeptic - 28-11-2012, 11:57 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - Stark Raving - 28-11-2012, 12:18 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Aseptic Skeptic - 28-11-2012, 12:55 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Aseptic Skeptic - 28-11-2012, 01:05 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Stark Raving - 28-11-2012, 01:46 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Free - 29-11-2012, 06:44 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - bemore - 04-12-2012, 12:34 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Vera - 04-12-2012, 12:36 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Free - 04-12-2012, 02:35 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Vera - 04-12-2012, 02:47 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Tartarus Sauce - 04-12-2012, 02:52 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Vera - 04-12-2012, 02:57 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Tartarus Sauce - 04-12-2012, 03:00 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Vera - 04-12-2012, 03:14 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Tartarus Sauce - 04-12-2012, 03:22 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Vera - 04-12-2012, 03:26 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Free Thought - 04-12-2012, 04:58 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Vera - 04-12-2012, 05:02 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Tartarus Sauce - 04-12-2012, 05:03 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Free Thought - 04-12-2012, 05:30 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Vera - 04-12-2012, 05:35 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Birdguy1979 - 08-12-2012, 10:47 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - Vera - 08-12-2012, 10:52 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - Dom - 08-12-2012, 11:21 AM
RE: lies or the truth? - Birdguy1979 - 08-12-2012, 12:26 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Vera - 08-12-2012, 12:38 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Logica Humano - 10-12-2012, 03:54 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Luminon - 10-12-2012, 03:21 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Vera - 10-12-2012, 03:29 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Luminon - 11-12-2012, 03:21 PM
RE: lies or the truth? - Vera - 11-12-2012, 03:27 PM
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