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31-03-2014, 04:50 AM
RE: moral obligation
(31-03-2014 03:54 AM)The Germans are coming Wrote:  
(28-03-2014 10:26 PM)mknight Wrote:  Do atheists have the moral obligation to encourage believers to think critically?

no
And why not?
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31-03-2014, 04:53 AM
RE: moral obligation
(31-03-2014 04:50 AM)mknight Wrote:  
(31-03-2014 03:54 AM)The Germans are coming Wrote:  no
And why not?

Do we have a moral obligation to mind our own business?
Do we have a moral obligation to respect other adults in their decisions so long as they're not harming others?

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31-03-2014, 04:57 AM
RE: moral obligation
(31-03-2014 03:31 AM)morondog Wrote:  I don't appreciate people who try to tell me what to think. Seems polite therefore, to not tell others what to think. Give 'em opportunity to decide for themselves, sure. Proselytize? No fucking way. Just my personal view. YMMV.
What if you realize that they have fallen for a powerful illusion? Would you, through inaction, allow them to make important decisions based on it?
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31-03-2014, 04:58 AM
RE: moral obligation
(31-03-2014 04:53 AM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  
(31-03-2014 04:50 AM)mknight Wrote:  And why not?

Do we have a moral obligation to mind our own business?
Do we have a moral obligation to respect other adults in their decisions so long as they're not harming others?
What if they are self-harming?
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31-03-2014, 04:59 AM
RE: moral obligation
(31-03-2014 03:02 AM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(29-03-2014 06:25 AM)War Horse Wrote:  Anybody else having a flashback to Donotwant's line of demanding answeres ?

Looks like a JAQfest to me
Clearly a case of mistaken identity.
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31-03-2014, 05:02 AM
RE: moral obligation
(31-03-2014 04:58 AM)mknight Wrote:  ...
What if they are self-harming?

I've been there.

Also when a very close relative had OD'd.

I asked them if they wanted to live or die and based on their answer, acted accordingly.

I felt no moral obligation to override their freedom of choice.

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31-03-2014, 05:07 AM
RE: moral obligation
(31-03-2014 04:57 AM)mknight Wrote:  
(31-03-2014 03:31 AM)morondog Wrote:  I don't appreciate people who try to tell me what to think. Seems polite therefore, to not tell others what to think. Give 'em opportunity to decide for themselves, sure. Proselytize? No fucking way. Just my personal view. YMMV.
What if you realize that they have fallen for a powerful illusion? Would you, through inaction, allow them to make important decisions based on it?

They think that *you* are living under a powerful illusion. Should they let you live your own life or should they interfere?

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31-03-2014, 05:07 AM
RE: moral obligation
(31-03-2014 05:02 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(31-03-2014 04:58 AM)mknight Wrote:  ...
What if they are self-harming?

I've been there.

Also when a very close relative had OD'd.

I asked them if they wanted to live or die and based on their answer, acted accordingly.

I felt no moral obligation to override their freedom of choice.
Would you, through inaction, allow a cult member (a la heaven's gate) to commit suicide?
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31-03-2014, 05:14 AM
RE: moral obligation
(31-03-2014 05:07 AM)morondog Wrote:  
(31-03-2014 04:57 AM)mknight Wrote:  What if you realize that they have fallen for a powerful illusion? Would you, through inaction, allow them to make important decisions based on it?

They think that *you* are living under a powerful illusion. Should they let you live your own life or should they interfere?
It provides the perfect opportunity to compare and re-evaluate our respective positions. I think inaction and silence for the sake of the 'live and let live' philosophy is a mistake. I'm not advocating the forceful approach but I think we should encourage critical re-evaluation of the position.
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31-03-2014, 06:00 AM
RE: moral obligation
(31-03-2014 05:07 AM)mknight Wrote:  
(31-03-2014 05:02 AM)DLJ Wrote:  I've been there.

Also when a very close relative had OD'd.

I asked them if they wanted to live or die and based on their answer, acted accordingly.

I felt no moral obligation to override their freedom of choice.
Would you, through inaction, allow a cult member (a la heaven's gate) to commit suicide?

Why not?

Is human life sacred?

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