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28-05-2013, 02:16 PM
RE: nature v nurture
(28-05-2013 06:29 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(28-05-2013 01:42 AM)I and I Wrote:  Individuals don't affect their environment at all. Cultures and a people do with their shared notions, shared ideologies, belief systems etc etc. How this culture impresses on an individual is different in degrees hence we have people with different opinions within the framework of the same ideology. A culture and it's politics is not made consciously unfortunately, Mao wrote on this topic a lot. A culture is defined by an objective assumption of an overall daily activities and ideas of a specific group of people. A culture as a whole with it's different aspects and modes of production having an affect on it's political ideology does happen, but this very different from saying that an individual affects that individuals politics. Not counting the fact that you can't even define an "individual". Has an individual ever existed? where and how? did this individual exist?

Checkmate.

Individuals don't affect their environment? Really? So culture exists apart from people and individuals don't exist. Sure.

Your ideas are incoherent.

Nope, individuals do not affect their environment, the actions of people within a culture affect their culture as a whole. Culture is not apart from people, who ever said otherwise?
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28-05-2013, 06:49 PM
RE: nature v nurture
(28-05-2013 02:16 PM)I and I Wrote:  Nope, individuals do not affect their environment, the actions of people within a culture affect their culture as a whole. Culture is not apart from people, who ever said otherwise?

So which is it? Individuals (people) don't affect their environment or people (individuals) create their environment?


Children, as individuals, are directly affected by their environments, which are created by their parents and those closest to them.

Culture, society, "the people", whatever you choose to call it, is a word describing a mass of individuals who exist within their own environments. It is a concept, and concepts cannot create things.

The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names. - Chinese Proverb
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