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07-04-2016, 02:17 PM
quick question about translation
I was under the impression that the bible was written in Greek first then translated to Hebrew. However I'm thinking it was the new testament not the old testament. So was the old testament written in Hebrew first? I think I got myself confused. Lol
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07-04-2016, 02:57 PM
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(07-04-2016 02:17 PM)purpledaisies Wrote:  I was under the impression that the bible was written in Greek first then translated to Hebrew. However I'm thinking it was the new testament not the old testament. So was the old testament written in Hebrew first? I think I got myself confused. Lol

The "old testament" was written in Hebrew first. The new testament was written in Greek.
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07-04-2016, 03:09 PM
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The OT was originally written in Hebrew. The Greeks didn't give a damn about it. It was translated into Greek by the Xtians. It was likely written in a few different flavours of Hebrew, funny how dialects change over a few hundred years, which is why certain names change in mid-sentence and why it's such a gripping read.

The NT that we've come to know and love was written first in Greek. That's how they got Jesus name wrong. Other non-canonical books were written in bunch of different languages (Hebrew, Egyptian, etc.). All of it was translated through "Church Latin" to a variety of different types of English at different times (and other languages).

But there aren't any mistranslations! Perish the thought.

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07-04-2016, 04:32 PM
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(07-04-2016 03:09 PM)Paleophyte Wrote:  The OT was originally written in Hebrew. The Greeks didn't give a damn about it. It was translated into Greek by the Xtians. It was likely written in a few different flavours of Hebrew, funny how dialects change over a few hundred years, which is why certain names change in mid-sentence and why it's such a gripping read.

The NT that we've come to know and love was written first in Greek. That's how they got Jesus name wrong. Other non-canonical books were written in bunch of different languages (Hebrew, Egyptian, etc.). All of it was translated through "Church Latin" to a variety of different types of English at different times (and other languages).

But there aren't any mistranslations! Perish the thought.

I would like to make just one small correction. The Old Testament was translated into Greek not by Christians, but by Jews, several hundred years before there were any Christians. Early Christians, many of whom were Greek-speaking, preferred this translation to the original Hebrew, but they're not the ones who did the translation.
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07-04-2016, 05:21 PM
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(07-04-2016 04:32 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 03:09 PM)Paleophyte Wrote:  The OT was originally written in Hebrew. The Greeks didn't give a damn about it. It was translated into Greek by the Xtians. It was likely written in a few different flavours of Hebrew, funny how dialects change over a few hundred years, which is why certain names change in mid-sentence and why it's such a gripping read.

The NT that we've come to know and love was written first in Greek. That's how they got Jesus name wrong. Other non-canonical books were written in bunch of different languages (Hebrew, Egyptian, etc.). All of it was translated through "Church Latin" to a variety of different types of English at different times (and other languages).

But there aren't any mistranslations! Perish the thought.

I would like to make just one small correction. The Old Testament was translated into Greek not by Christians, but by Jews, several hundred years before there were any Christians. Early Christians, many of whom were Greek-speaking, preferred this translation to the original Hebrew, but they're not the ones who did the translation.

Yeah, but those translations are lost, and they only ever included the first five books anyway. It makes perfect sense that the later translations could have come from Jews, but the translation errors that exist in today's Septuagint suggest that those Jews were either really uneducated, or that it was really Christians who translated it.
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08-04-2016, 11:20 AM
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(07-04-2016 05:21 PM)Aliza Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 04:32 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  I would like to make just one small correction. The Old Testament was translated into Greek not by Christians, but by Jews, several hundred years before there were any Christians. Early Christians, many of whom were Greek-speaking, preferred this translation to the original Hebrew, but they're not the ones who did the translation.

Yeah, but those translations are lost, and they only ever included the first five books anyway. It makes perfect sense that the later translations could have come from Jews, but the translation errors that exist in today's Septuagint suggest that those Jews were either really uneducated, or that it was really Christians who translated it.

Hmmm -- you learn something new every day, I guess. I checked a few online sources, and they align with Aliza more than with me. Apparently, it is not known with certainty who did the translation. I hereby withdraw my earlier "correction". As Emily Litella would say, "Never mind".
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08-04-2016, 02:47 PM
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Yeah, Aliza know's her stuff when it comes to her religion. Which is more then I can say about many of the other believers that float in here.

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08-04-2016, 02:52 PM
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(08-04-2016 11:20 AM)Grasshopper Wrote:  Hmmm -- you learn something new every day, I guess. I checked a few online sources, and they align with Aliza more than with me. Apparently, it is not known with certainty who did the translation. I hereby withdraw my earlier "correction". As Emily Litella would say, "Never mind".

(08-04-2016 02:47 PM)Commonsensei Wrote:  Yeah, Aliza know's her stuff when it comes to her religion. Which is more then I can say about many of the other believers that float in here.

I'm actually really pleased that I finally have people with whom to share some of the information floating around in my head. Big Grin
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08-04-2016, 02:55 PM
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(07-04-2016 05:21 PM)Aliza Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 04:32 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  I would like to make just one small correction. The Old Testament was translated into Greek not by Christians, but by Jews, several hundred years before there were any Christians. Early Christians, many of whom were Greek-speaking, preferred this translation to the original Hebrew, but they're not the ones who did the translation.

Yeah, but those translations are lost, and they only ever included the first five books anyway. It makes perfect sense that the later translations could have come from Jews, but the translation errors that exist in today's Septuagint suggest that those Jews were either really uneducated, or that it was really Christians who translated it.

I agree with Aliza. Although my memory is not what it was....

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08-04-2016, 11:39 PM
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(08-04-2016 02:47 PM)Commonsensei Wrote:  Yeah, Aliza know's her stuff when it comes to her religion. Which is more then I can say about many of the other believers that float in here.

I know my religion very well. Ask me ANY question about it I will give you ANY(Big Grin) answer

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