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11-03-2014, 07:19 AM
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(11-03-2014 07:16 AM)Atothetheist Wrote:  
(11-03-2014 07:11 AM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  There's a distinction between energy/material being created, and energy/material being manipulated.

Where then did this energy/material derive from?

Indeed, and I think that it should be noted that simply because a cause is needed to manipulate energy/material, we can't assume it works the same way with energy/material CREATION.

There is this wonderful little theory, I think you might like it.

I'm not sure if you heard of it, but I think the title will attract you enough to read it.

Bang!

Now, in case that didn't help you, let me answer it in a more clearer way.

I don't know where it all came from, but you shouldn't assume a god did it.

I assume something caused the big bang. That is all. Otherwise, it just happened from nothing.
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11-03-2014, 07:20 AM
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(11-03-2014 07:13 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(11-03-2014 06:58 AM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  That's convenient.
Eventually we will be able to create life from non-life etc.

Already did that four years ago.

Link: http://io9.com/5543843/scientists-create...-replicate

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11-03-2014, 07:21 AM
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(11-03-2014 07:19 AM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  
(11-03-2014 07:16 AM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Indeed, and I think that it should be noted that simply because a cause is needed to manipulate energy/material, we can't assume it works the same way with energy/material CREATION.

There is this wonderful little theory, I think you might like it.

I'm not sure if you heard of it, but I think the title will attract you enough to read it.

Bang!

Now, in case that didn't help you, let me answer it in a more clearer way.

I don't know where it all came from, but you shouldn't assume a god did it.

I assume something caused the big bang. That is all. Otherwise, it just happened from nothing.

Facepalm

You know what they say when you assume?

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11-03-2014, 07:21 AM
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(11-03-2014 06:55 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  Just added Miss Meng to my ignore list. The only one on there so far! She just added noise.

Yeah, obvious troll is obvious. She's not even faking a discussion. I added her a day or two ago.
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11-03-2014, 07:22 AM
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(11-03-2014 07:21 AM)Atothetheist Wrote:  
(11-03-2014 07:19 AM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  I assume something caused the big bang. That is all. Otherwise, it just happened from nothing.

Facepalm

You know what they say when you assume?

Huh
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11-03-2014, 07:23 AM
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(11-03-2014 07:21 AM)Atothetheist Wrote:  
(11-03-2014 07:19 AM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  I assume something caused the big bang. That is all. Otherwise, it just happened from nothing.

Facepalm

You know what they say when you assume?

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11-03-2014, 07:23 AM
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(11-03-2014 07:19 AM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  
(11-03-2014 07:16 AM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Indeed, and I think that it should be noted that simply because a cause is needed to manipulate energy/material, we can't assume it works the same way with energy/material CREATION.

There is this wonderful little theory, I think you might like it.

I'm not sure if you heard of it, but I think the title will attract you enough to read it.

Bang!

Now, in case that didn't help you, let me answer it in a more clearer way.

I don't know where it all came from, but you shouldn't assume a god did it.

I assume something caused the big bang. That is all. Otherwise, it just happened from nothing.

And so what if it happened for nothing?

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11-03-2014, 07:26 AM
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(11-03-2014 07:22 AM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  
(11-03-2014 07:21 AM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Facepalm

You know what they say when you assume?

Huh

Weeping

I'm just going to be here.... In the dilapidated corner of the thread....
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11-03-2014, 07:27 AM
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(11-03-2014 07:23 AM)Elder Cunningham Wrote:  
(11-03-2014 07:21 AM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Facepalm

You know what they say when you assume?

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11-03-2014, 07:27 AM
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(11-03-2014 07:19 AM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  
(11-03-2014 07:16 AM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Indeed, and I think that it should be noted that simply because a cause is needed to manipulate energy/material, we can't assume it works the same way with energy/material CREATION.

There is this wonderful little theory, I think you might like it.

I'm not sure if you heard of it, but I think the title will attract you enough to read it.

Bang!

Now, in case that didn't help you, let me answer it in a more clearer way.

I don't know where it all came from, but you shouldn't assume a god did it.

I assume something caused the big bang. That is all. Otherwise, it just happened from nothing.

Meaningless nonsense.
Spacetime BEGAN at the singularity. Speaking of "causation" *before* spacetime is like talking about what is "South" of the South Pole.
Seriously, have you actually been living under a rock your entire life ? Where did the principle of Causality come from ?

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