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07-08-2015, 10:34 AM
RE: [split] Assalamo alaikum
(06-08-2015 07:45 AM)π¶∆ Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 07:30 AM)Chas Wrote:  Oh, fuck off. Your preconceptions show your ignorance and bigotry.
So which of my statements do you think is due to "religious brainwashed propaganda"?
1. Atheists vote for Democrats
2. Support homosexuality
3. Support abortion

Instead of insults, it's better to have a discussion. I can back all 3 of my statements. Can you prove otherwise?

I was only saying that atheists don't have any more individuality than the rest, though I'm sure it's pleasant to imagine so, everyone wants to feel special.



1. Christians and other religions vote Democrats also.
2. Christians and other religious people support homosexuality also.
3. Christians and other religious people also support abortions.

My point is here is that, yes, most atheist do support those things, but also so do millions of religious people.

Therefore, you cannot separate atheists from religious people with your comparison in regards to what we all support. The fact that atheists support those things is not unique to atheists alone, but also to hundreds of millions of people who are religious.

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07-08-2015, 10:52 AM (This post was last modified: 07-08-2015 11:30 AM by Nurse.)
RE: [split] Assalamo alaikum
(07-08-2015 10:01 AM)π¶∆ Wrote:  You did not read the thread. It has to do with apostates and not non-muslims.
The problem here is you don't see the irrelevancy in distinguishing between an apostate and non-muslim. My six year old understands it's not okay to kill people you disagree with.

Quote:Cut the sarcasm. I will simply stop responding. I don't owe you any reply. Always remember that.
Fuck off. I hope to god you're not going to practice medicine in the US with that attitude. You're the one defending a religion that teaches it's ok to rape little girls while calling it marriage and murder people that don't agree with you. Always remember that. Feel free to get off your goddamn high horse you immoral sack of shit.

Quote:Yes, destroying the other copies was definitely the right decision. As Islam's territory expanded, it was important to establish the Quran that was known to the companions of the prophet. best decision.

Arab society was an oral society. So Quran did exist back then, just not in a completely written form compiled in one book. Stop semantic acrobatics.
Apparently you didn't play "telephone" as a child. Here's how it goes - I whisper something in my classmate's ear, then they repeat it. It goes around the circle until the last person says it out loud. I'll let you think about that, your critical thinking skills need some work. Especially with all the bullshit you're parroting - when is it EVER ok to destroy a government document unless there is something to hide?

Quote:I believe either Adam was the first homo-sapien Or Noah's progeny were the first homosapiens.

Where the fuck did you go to school? (Rhetorical question - I don't really give a damn) I learned about evolution looooong before Biology 101 my freshman year of college. Since your education is lacking, I would ordinarily point out some great museums for you to visit, but given your propensity to not think for yourself and let a heinous book dictate your moral compass, I'm going to decline for fear your cohorts might decide to go blow them up for allah. Praise be upon him for all the little girls and boys that have lost their heads in his name this year for having christian parents or weren't the right kind of muslim.

Quote:Yes. There are other sources of Law.
1. Quran
2. Hadith
And the others are equal to each other :Qiyas and Ijtehad. These cover the topics not covered in Quran and hadith. Mostly analogies are used, how did quran and hadith resolve a problem, and then problems are resolved in a similar manner. They cannot oppose Quran and authentic hadith.

Quran is indeed perfect. Hadith are needed for the finer details on how to carry out Qurans orders. If Quran says prayers, how should one pray? etc etc. Quran itself asks muslims to obey the prophet, so in essence, obeying hadith is obeying Quran. The only issue is verifying the hadith.
(07-08-2015 09:35 AM)morondog Wrote:  What I asked was how *you* feel about it. into which camp do *you* fall?

Ah yes, ye olde username Rolleyes Can't tell you how many dickheads have commented on the same. Every one of them seems to think they're being original for some reason Consider


To an extent. Like I said, I want to know *your* opinion an this matter. Not whether or not people can justify stuff with scripture. You can justify pretty much anything with scripture. But whether or not you are a compassionate human being is the question that is at issue here, from my point of view.

Another thing, do you dare to have an opinion that differs from the Prophet himself on any topic? Or if it's in the Quran then by definition it is right and just?

My opinion on the matter is already mentioned in the thread. Go find it.

No, I dare not have any such opinion.

You have quite the severe case of anal glaucoma. Must be hard to function when you can't see through the shit.


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RE: [split] Assalamo alaikum
(07-08-2015 10:11 AM)goodwithoutgod Wrote:  ...
lol this jackass still here?

lets look at the qu'ran and hadith, the source of delusion from their pedophile prophet child rapist murdering piece of shit "gods messenger".

"Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)

"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)

"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)

"Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:78-)

"Blessed are the believers...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them)...These are the heirs of Paradise..." (Surah 23:1-5-)

""Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)

"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216)

"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)

"Forbidden to you are...married women, except those you own as slaves." (Surah 4:20-, 24-)

Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)

"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

"It ill becomes the idolaters [non-Muslims] to visit the mosques of God..." (Surah 9:17)

"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)


Allah managed to hand down quite a few "revelations" that sanctioned Muhammad's personal pursuit of sex to the doubters around him. Interestingly they have become part of the eternal, infallible word of the Qur'an, to be memorized by generations of Muslims for whom they have no possible relevance.

Qur'an (33:37) - "But when Zaid had accomplished his want of her, We gave her to you as a wife, so that there should be no difficulty for the believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished their want of them; and Allah's command shall be performed." No doubt millions of young Muslims, trying to outdo one another at memorizing the Qur'an, have wondered about what this verse means and why it is there. In fact, this is a "revelation" of convenience that Allah just happened to hand down at a time when Muhammad lusted after his daughter-in-law, Zaynab, - a state of affairs that disturbed local customs. The verse "commands" Muhammad to marry the woman (following her husband's gracious divorce). As for why this should be part of the eternal word of God...?

Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her-- specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; " This is another special command that Muhammad handed down to himself that allows virtually unlimited sex, divinely sanctioned by Allah. One assumes that this "revelation" was meant to assuage some sort of disgruntlement in the community over Muhammad's hedonism.

Qur'an (33:51) - "You may put off whom you please of them, and you may take to you whom you please, and whom you desire of those whom you had separated provisionally; no blame attaches to you; this is most proper, so that their eyes may be cool and they may not grieve, and that they should be pleased" This is in reference to a situation in which Muhammad's wives were grumbling about his preference for sleeping with a slave girl (Mary the Copt) instead of them. Accordingly, Muhammad may sleep with whichever wife (or slave) he wishes without having to hear the others complain... as revealed in Allah's literal and perfect words to more than a billion Muslims.

Qur'an (66:1-5) - "O Prophet! Why ban thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives?..." Another remarkable verse of sexual convenience concerns an episode in which Muhammad's wives were jealous of the attention that he was giving to a Christian slave girl. But, as he pointed out to them, to neglect the sexual availability of his slaves was against Allah's will for him!

Qur'an (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." Allah even permitted Muhammad and his men to have sex with married slaves, such as those captured in battle.

Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) narrated that the Prophet (may the blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) married her when she was six years old, and he consummated her in marriage when she was nine years old. Then she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

Khadijah died three years before the Prophet (the blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) departed to Madina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old.

Urwa narrated: The Prophet (may the blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years.

Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.

This is just a sample of the early Muslim traditions reporting Muhammad’s marriage to the young Aisha, but it is sufficient to show that she certainly wasn’t fifteen years old at the time of the consummation, as some Muslims claim.

here is an educational link for you showing the Islamic proof that his wife was 9yo upon marriage/sex.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/prepubescent.htm

Muslims are quick to point out immorality around the world, especially in the West. It seems, then, that they are suggesting a very inconsistent message. When confronted with an immoral practice in another culture, Muslims cry out in one accord, "We condemn these practices, for they are against the eternal, perfect, and unalterable Law of God!" Yet, whenever the moral character of Muhammad is being scrutinized, Muslims suddenly say, "Don’t judge Muhammad! You should remember that he was from a different culture! Marrying young girls was common in Arabia, and it still is, thanks to Muhammad’s precedent. Different people have different moral standards, so no one should worry about Muhammad’s sexual relationship with a nine-year-old girl."

This convenient switch from moral absolutism to moral relativism is logically unacceptable. If it is wrong to judge the practices of another culture, then both Muhammad and the Qur’an were wrong for condemning immoral practices in Arabia. But if condemning immoral practices is acceptable, then Muslim apologists need a better response to criticisms of Muhammad’s relationship with Aisha.

"Muhammad was married to thirteen women, including eleven at one time. He relegated them to either consecutive days or (according to some accounts) all in one night. He married a 9-year-old girl and even his adopted son's wife. On top of that, Muhammad had a multitude of slave girls and concubines with whom he had sex - sometimes on the very days in which they had watched their husbands and fathers die at the hands of his army."

So, by any realistic measure, the creator of the world's most sexually restrictive religion was also one of the most sexually indulgent characters in history.

From the Hadith:

Muslim (8:3309) - Muhammad consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was only nine. (See also Bukhari 58:234 and many other places). No where in the reliable Hadith or Sira is there any other age given.

Bukhari (62:18) - Aisha's father, Abu Bakr, wasn't on board at first, but Muhammad explained how the rules of their religion made it possible. This is similar to the way that present-day cult leaders manipulate their followers into similar concessions.

Muslim (8:3311) - The girl took her dolls with her to Muhammad's house (something to play with when the "prophet" was not having sex with her).

Bukhari (6:298) - Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and fondle her.

Muslim (8:3460) - "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you could sport with her and she sport with you, or you could amuse with her and she could amuse with you?" Muhammad posed this question to one of his followers who had married an "older woman" instead of opting to fondle a child.

Bukhari (4:232) - Muhammad's wives would wash semen stains out of his clothes, which were still wet from the spot-cleaning even when he went to the mosque for prayers. Between copulation and prayer, it's a wonder he found the time to slay pagans.

Bukhari (6:300) - Muhammad's wives had to be available for the prophet's fondling even when they were having their menstrual period.

Bukhari (93:639) - The Prophet of Islam would recite the 'Holy Qur'an' with his head in Aisha's lap, when she was menstruating.

Bukhari (62:6) - "The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives." Muhammad also said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally - and it isn't hard to guess why.

Bukhari (5:268) - "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, 'Had the Prophet the strength for it?' Anas replied, 'We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty men.' "

Bukhari (60:311) - "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires." These words were spoken by Aisha within the context of her husband having been given 'Allah's permission' to fulfill his sexual desires with a large number of women in whatever order he chooses. (It has been suggested that Aisha may have been speaking somewhat wryly).

Muslim (8:3424) - One of several narrations in which a leering Muhammad orders a clearly startled woman to suckle a grown man with her breast so that he will become "unlawful" to her - meaning that they can live under the same roof together.

Tabari IX:137 - "Allah granted Rayhana of the Qurayza to Muhammad as booty." Muhammad considered the women that he captured and enslaved to be God's gift to him.

Tabari VIII:117 - "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself... the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims." He sometimes pulled rank to reserve the most beautiful captured women for himself.

On the other hand, Muhammad passed down revelations from Allah that clearly condoned sleeping with underage girls, even by the standard of puberty. Qur'an (65:4) relates rules for divorce, one of them being that a waiting period of three months is established to determine that the woman is not pregnant. But the same rule applies to "those too who have not had their courses," meaning girls who have not begun to menstruate.

Thanks to Muhammad's extremely poor judgment (at best) and explicit approval of pedophilia, sex with children became deeply ingrained in the Islamic tradition. For many centuries, Muslim armies would purge Christian and Hindu peasant villages of their menfolk and send the women and children to harems and the thriving child sex slave markets deep in the Islamic world.

When it comes to child marriage, contemporary clerics warn fellow Muslims against succumbing to the disapproval of the Christian West: "It behooves those who call for setting a minimum age for marriage to fear Allah and not contradict his Sharia, or try to legislate things Allah did not permit. For laws are Allah’s province; and legislation is his excusive right, to be shared by none other. And among these are the rules governing marriage.”

The Ayatollah Khomeini, who married a 12-year-old girl, even gave his consent to using infants for sexual pleasure (although warning against full penetration until the baby is a few years older).

Some clerics show relative mercy on underage girls by advocating a process known as "thighing" (also known as child molestation in the West). According to a recent fatwa (number 23672), an imam answers this question: "My parents married me to a young girl who hasn't yet reached puberty. How can I enjoy her sexually?" by telling the 'man' that he may "hug her, kiss her, and ejaculate between her legs."

A prominent member of Saudi Arabia's highest religious council said in 2012 that girls can be married "even if they are in the cradle," then went on to explain that intercourse may occur whenever "they are capable of being placed beneath and bearing the weight of the man."

stop the bacha bazi tradition, you know the hiring and raping of little boys...or the marrying of 9 yo girls, raping them the night of the wedding and then when the child dies from bleeding, not even holding the man accountable, the mutilation of girls genitals so that she doesnt feel pleasure, the stoning of women accused of adultery, the honor killing of daughters who had the audacity to allow themselves to be raped...etc etc you know, all those great islam traditions.

Sounds legit, truly, sounds like the perfect person a universe and life creating god would choose to be his prophet, his messenger. Rolleyes


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07-08-2015, 11:31 AM
RE: [split] Assalamo alaikum
(07-08-2015 10:01 AM)π¶∆ Wrote:  I believe either Adam was the first homo-sapien Or Noah's progeny were the first homosapiens.

*Homo sapiens (singular)
**Homo sapiens individuals

The plural form of Homo sapiens (homines sapientes) is not used in English.

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07-08-2015, 11:32 AM
RE: [split] Assalamo alaikum
(07-08-2015 10:01 AM)π¶∆ Wrote:  You did not read the thread. It has to do with apostates and not non-muslims.

I did indeed read the thread. I hate to break it to you, Pi, but an apostate needs to be accorded the same respect and the same protections as non-Muslims. If someone doesn't believe, he doesn't believe. Would you rather he lie and say that he still believes? If I were your god, I would find that rather insulting and juvenile rather than pleasing.

Punishing someone for losing faith is absolutely not acceptable under any circumstances, no matter what your holy book says. I will not tolerate any excuses in this regard: If you are not condemning the harming of human beings in the name of your religion, by your silence you become complicit in those deaths.

Quote:No, I dare not have any such opinion.

What a craven attitude! Has Islam made cowards of you all, made you incapable of questioning your own beliefs?

It's rather different in My heritage (Scandinavian). We aren't obligated to take the scriptures of our ancestors literally, or even seriously:
  • We giggle when reading the story of how the cosmic cow Audhumbla freed a giant from a block of ice by licking it away, and how the first humans were sweated out of the giant's armpits.
  • We smirk and chortle when dear, sweet Uncle Loki announces at a party that He knows Freyja was having sexual relations with Her brother Frey because her farts gave her away.
  • And we don't murder people for not believing in Allfather Oðinn, because we know that behaviour is vastly more important than belief. That's why the standard of living and human rights protections are better in the Nordic countries than in Islamic-majority nations.
Seriously, cut the crap and stop making excuses for the inexcusable. Your religion has critical problems, and hiding your faces on your prayer rugs five times a day will not make it one iota better.
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RE: [split] Assalamo alaikum
(07-08-2015 10:52 AM)Nurse Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 10:01 AM)π¶∆ Wrote:  You did not read the thread. It has to do with apostates and not non-muslims.
The problem here is you don't see the irrelevancy in distinguishing between an apostate and non-muslim. My six year old understands it's not okay to kill people you disagree with.

Quote:Cut the sarcasm. I will simply stop responding. I don't owe you any reply. Always remember that.
Fuck off. I hope to god you're not going to practice medicine in the US with that attitude. You're the one defending a religion that teaches it's ok to rape little girls while calling it marriage and murder people that don't agree with you. Always remember that. Feel free to get off your goddamn high horse you immoral sack of shit.

Quote:Yes, destroying the other copies was definitely the right decision. As Islam's territory expanded, it was important to establish the Quran that was known to the companions of the prophet. best decision.

Arab society was an oral society. So Quran did exist back then, just not in a completely written form compiled in one book. Stop semantic acrobatics.
Apparently you didn't play "telephone" as a child. Here's how it goes - I whisper something in my classmate's ear, then they repeat it. It goes around the circle until the last person says it out loud. I'll let you think about that, your critical thinking skills need some work. Especially with all the bullshit you're parroting - when is it EVER ok to destroy a government document unless there is something to hide?

Quote:I believe either Adam was the first homo-sapien Or Noah's progeny were the first homosapiens.

Where the fuck did you go to school? (Rhetorical question - I don't really give a damn) I learned about evolution looooong before Biology 101 my freshman year of college. Since you're education is lacking, I would ordinarily point out some great museums for you to visit, but given your propensity to not think for yourself and let a heinous book dictate your moral compass, I'm going to decline for fear your cohorts might decide to go blow them up for allah. Praise be upon him for all the little girls and boys that have lost their heads in his name this year for having christian parents or weren't the right kind of muslim.

Quote:Yes. There are other sources of Law.
1. Quran
2. Hadith
And the others are equal to each other :Qiyas and Ijtehad. These cover the topics not covered in Quran and hadith. Mostly analogies are used, how did quran and hadith resolve a problem, and then problems are resolved in a similar manner. They cannot oppose Quran and authentic hadith.

Quran is indeed perfect. Hadith are needed for the finer details on how to carry out Qurans orders. If Quran says prayers, how should one pray? etc etc. Quran itself asks muslims to obey the prophet, so in essence, obeying hadith is obeying Quran. The only issue is verifying the hadith.

My opinion on the matter is already mentioned in the thread. Go find it.

No, I dare not have any such opinion.

You have quite the severe case of anal glaucoma. Must be hard to function when you can't see through the shit.

You seemed one of the nice ones. Why the profanities? It's not OK to rape little girls, OR women for that matter. As for killing apostates, they are asked to repent thrice with 3 days time in between each attempt. And only the govt. can carry out the execution.

They DID NOT destroy a govt document. They destroyed all NON-GOVT Qurans that were popping up everywhere.

Why are you attacking my profession? Just to reassure you, I believe in saving all lives, regardless of faith and beliefs, even if it were you after calling me a "sack of shit", I hope you will do the same if a Muslim patient comes to you, but i am doubting it considering how you mix profession and personal stuff. I don't take anything personally in my profession. I also hope your colleagues don't share your opinions and stance, that will be a disaster for everyone. I regret mentioning my line of work. Everyone has made it a point of attacking it.

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07-08-2015, 11:35 AM
RE: [split] Assalamo alaikum
(07-08-2015 10:52 AM)Nurse Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 10:01 AM)π¶∆ Wrote:  You did not read the thread. It has to do with apostates and not non-muslims.
The problem here is you don't see the irrelevancy in distinguishing between an apostate and non-muslim. My six year old understands it's not okay to kill people you disagree with.

Quote:Cut the sarcasm. I will simply stop responding. I don't owe you any reply. Always remember that.
Fuck off. I hope to god you're not going to practice medicine in the US with that attitude. You're the one defending a religion that teaches it's ok to rape little girls while calling it marriage and murder people that don't agree with you. Always remember that. Feel free to get off your goddamn high horse you immoral sack of shit.

Quote:Yes, destroying the other copies was definitely the right decision. As Islam's territory expanded, it was important to establish the Quran that was known to the companions of the prophet. best decision.

Arab society was an oral society. So Quran did exist back then, just not in a completely written form compiled in one book. Stop semantic acrobatics.
Apparently you didn't play "telephone" as a child. Here's how it goes - I whisper something in my classmate's ear, then they repeat it. It goes around the circle until the last person says it out loud. I'll let you think about that, your critical thinking skills need some work. Especially with all the bullshit you're parroting - when is it EVER ok to destroy a government document unless there is something to hide?

Quote:I believe either Adam was the first homo-sapien Or Noah's progeny were the first homosapiens.

Where the fuck did you go to school? (Rhetorical question - I don't really give a damn) I learned about evolution looooong before Biology 101 my freshman year of college. Since your education is lacking, I would ordinarily point out some great museums for you to visit, but given your propensity to not think for yourself and let a heinous book dictate your moral compass, I'm going to decline for fear your cohorts might decide to go blow them up for allah. Praise be upon him for all the little girls and boys that have lost their heads in his name this year for having christian parents or weren't the right kind of muslim.

Quote:Yes. There are other sources of Law.
1. Quran
2. Hadith
And the others are equal to each other :Qiyas and Ijtehad. These cover the topics not covered in Quran and hadith. Mostly analogies are used, how did quran and hadith resolve a problem, and then problems are resolved in a similar manner. They cannot oppose Quran and authentic hadith.

Quran is indeed perfect. Hadith are needed for the finer details on how to carry out Qurans orders. If Quran says prayers, how should one pray? etc etc. Quran itself asks muslims to obey the prophet, so in essence, obeying hadith is obeying Quran. The only issue is verifying the hadith.

My opinion on the matter is already mentioned in the thread. Go find it.

No, I dare not have any such opinion.

You have quite the severe case of anal glaucoma. Must be hard to function when you can't see through the shit.


Edited to fix an autocorrect fail.

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07-08-2015, 11:36 AM
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(07-08-2015 11:31 AM)undergroundp Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 10:01 AM)π¶∆ Wrote:  I believe either Adam was the first homo-sapien Or Noah's progeny were the first homosapiens.

*Homo sapiens (singular)
**Homo sapiens individuals

The plural form of Homo sapiens (homines sapientes) is not used in English.

I did not know that. So would you say Adam was the first homosapiens?
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07-08-2015, 11:45 AM
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(07-08-2015 09:23 AM)π¶∆ Wrote:  Read the link you posted.... I am talking about translation and interpretation NOT translators and INTERPRETERS...

I did, you didn't apparently. So let me link directly to it:

(06-08-2015 03:57 PM)π¶∆ Wrote:  The dictionary doesn't say so. Interpretation and translation, both can either oral or written.

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07-08-2015, 11:53 AM
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(07-08-2015 11:36 AM)π¶∆ Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 11:31 AM)undergroundp Wrote:  *Homo sapiens (singular)
**Homo sapiens individuals

The plural form of Homo sapiens (homines sapientes) is not used in English.

I did not know that. So would you say Adam was the first homosapiens?

It's "Homo sapiens". The correct form of the question is " So would you say Adam was the first member of Homo sapiens?"

The answer is a resounding "No". There is no first member of the species.

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