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26-09-2015, 09:14 AM
RE: Beauty of Mathematics
(26-09-2015 08:28 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(25-09-2015 07:19 PM)ZoraPrime Wrote:  Honey bees don't know that they're making the most efficient lattice; they just create whatever lattice they happened to be selected for. I.e., they evolved that way. If we made a general rule of thumb "any trait that is selected for is most efficient," we'd be wrong so many times.

The reason we know, and the only reason we know, the lattice is the most efficient is because of mathematics. Bees don't know that; they (by far and large) just don't know how to create a lattice any other way.

The fact that bees are incapable of abstraction still doesn't change the fact that the problem of how to build the most efficient lattice was solved without mathematics.

Doesn't matter. How do we know they are the most efficient? Mathematics

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26-09-2015, 09:45 AM
RE: Beauty of Mathematics
(26-09-2015 09:14 AM)Octapulse Wrote:  
(26-09-2015 08:28 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  The fact that bees are incapable of abstraction still doesn't change the fact that the problem of how to build the most efficient lattice was solved without mathematics.

Doesn't matter. How do we know they are the most efficient? Mathematics

Nobody was surprised when the proof came out. Why? Because we already knew it was the most efficient.
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26-09-2015, 10:33 AM
RE: Beauty of Mathematics
(26-09-2015 09:45 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(26-09-2015 09:14 AM)Octapulse Wrote:  Doesn't matter. How do we know they are the most efficient? Mathematics

Nobody was surprised when the proof came out. Why? Because we already knew it was the most efficient.

If that was the case, there would be no fucking point to the research

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26-09-2015, 10:49 AM
RE: Beauty of Mathematics
(26-09-2015 10:33 AM)Octapulse Wrote:  
(26-09-2015 09:45 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Nobody was surprised when the proof came out. Why? Because we already knew it was the most efficient.

If that was the case, there would be no fucking point to the research

There is a certain satisfaction that comes with solving a problem.
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26-09-2015, 11:33 AM
RE: Beauty of Mathematics
(26-09-2015 10:49 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(26-09-2015 10:33 AM)Octapulse Wrote:  If that was the case, there would be no fucking point to the research

There is a certain satisfaction that comes with solving a problem.

You're doing that thing again. . .

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26-09-2015, 11:37 AM
RE: Beauty of Mathematics
(26-09-2015 10:49 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(26-09-2015 10:33 AM)Octapulse Wrote:  If that was the case, there would be no fucking point to the research

There is a certain satisfaction that comes with solving a problem.

My observations of your posts... A) You would make a terrible mathematician, physicists, or engineer. B) You would make a terrible trial attorney. C) You have a psychological defect in wanting to continually argue with others... If you don't like people sharing their views on THIS thread entitled, "Beauty of Mathematics", then I shall politely ask you to go start your own GODDAMN thread.
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26-09-2015, 12:48 PM (This post was last modified: 26-09-2015 12:58 PM by Heywood Jahblome.)
RE: Beauty of Mathematics
(26-09-2015 11:37 AM)Timj Wrote:  
(26-09-2015 10:49 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  There is a certain satisfaction that comes with solving a problem.

My observations of your posts... A) You would make a terrible mathematician, physicists, or engineer. B) You would make a terrible trial attorney. C) You have a psychological defect in wanting to continually argue with others... If you don't like people sharing their views on THIS thread entitled, "Beauty of Mathematics", then I shall politely ask you to go start your own GODDAMN thread.

My observation of your posts....Lacking a compelling counter argument, you instead decided the employ the tactic of attacking the man instead of the argument and hope that works. It won't.
I don't have a problem with you thinking mathematics is beautiful....it is. All language is beautiful and math especially so. I have a problem when you make statements like this:

"It seems the deeper you dig into ANY field of study, the more mathematics you find. From simple electronics to cosmological expansion, there exists an equation for damn near everything."

Because it isn't any more insightful than this statement:

"It seems the deeper you dig into ANY field of study, the more sentences you find to describe it. From simple electronics to cosmological expansion, there exists a sentence for damn near everything".

You may have desired to start a thread for circle jerking but in doing so you implied that math was something it is not. You implied that math is more than an abstract way to describe the universe and that it is some kind of fundamental force that makes things happen......now you are butthurt because I have called you out and argued that it isn't. And now you are even more butthurt because you lack a compelling counter argument.

Last, you should be happy this didn't turn out to be a circlejerking thread. Because it became an argument....a debate.....You and I and everyone else had to spend a lot more time thinking about what math really is.....and that is a good thing.
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26-09-2015, 12:54 PM
RE: Beauty of Mathematics
Jesus fuck Blowjob. Go wank somewhere else.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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26-09-2015, 01:05 PM
RE: Beauty of Mathematics
(26-09-2015 12:54 PM)morondog Wrote:  Jesus fuck Blowjob. Go wank somewhere else.

If Timj and others didn't want to discuss what math actually is with me, you guys could have simply ignored my post and gone on with your math-masturbation session.

Seriously, its like you guys were all agreeing that Catlyn Jenner is one hot woman and are now are mad cause I pointed out to you that she is really a guy.
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26-09-2015, 01:18 PM
RE: Beauty of Mathematics
(26-09-2015 01:05 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(26-09-2015 12:54 PM)morondog Wrote:  Jesus fuck Blowjob. Go wank somewhere else.

If Timj and others didn't want to discuss what math actually is with me, you guys could have simply ignored my post and gone on with your math-masturbation session.

Seriously, its like you guys were all agreeing that Catlyn Jenner is one hot woman and are now are mad cause I pointed out to you that she is really a guy.

Just take your self-admiration somewhere else. The topic of the thread is clear, and it's not you.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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