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02-11-2013, 09:38 PM
RE: [split] Chippy vs the World
(02-11-2013 09:25 PM)Chippy Wrote:  
(02-11-2013 09:13 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  What's your purpose in replying?

To let you know that your post expresses a sense of discovery about something that was freely revealed. You feel compelled to attribute even what I freely divulge as the product of your perception and insight. That reeks of desperation.

I'm sorry you're so desperate. I can't help that you've become painfully obvious.


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02-11-2013, 09:42 PM
RE: [split] Chippy vs the World
Clap - you cited Wikipedia when you started blabbering about aggregate supply rising to meet aggregate demand. I didn't nitpick you, but you failed (because Wikipedia fails) to account to the the degree of elasticity of the demand.

Don't be a tit. You know you frequently use Wikipedia. And you called me a fat and ugly cunt on several occasions. Again, I feel no need to go back through your posts to prove it to you. You will just tell me that ugly means something different to an Aussie.

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02-11-2013, 09:44 PM
RE: [split] Chippy vs the World
(02-11-2013 09:03 PM)Chippy Wrote:  
(02-11-2013 08:22 PM)cheapthrillseaker Wrote:  Not buying that excuse.

You clearly have your own idiosyncratic definition of knowledge. There is no point discusing the matter with me any further. You need to find someone else that shares your private definition and thrash it out with them.

Quote:Then I guess you can't blame anyone but yourself on how this thread turned out... Oh, wait - you did.

No, I didn't "blame" anyone for anything.

Quote:You are assuming and trying hard to put words in my mouth. Yeah, no - I'm devaluing your input because you seem to think you are the only one entitled to criticizing other people's knowledge as well as criticizing people in general via

Devalue all you like.

Quote:ad homonym attack - shit like that don't fly so easily around here.

It is spelled "ad hominem" and it is a contraction of "argumentum ad hominem". Argumentum ad hominem does not mean to insult or verbally someone. Argumentum ad hominem is an a fallacious argument form which I have not committed.

Quote:You need to learn that there's nothing wrong with being wrong when it comes to knowledge.

You need to learn to look things up before believing you have knowledge.

Quote: Most of what you've spouted on here so far tells me you've never learned that.

Most of what you've spouted on here tells me you have no relevant knowledge.

Quote:You react based on what you hold to be knowledge and attack those who aren't out to cause you any foul, thus creating the situation where people retaliate to your arsehole behavior and then you pull the victim card. I'm not surprised you've received the reactions you have.

Show me where I have "pull[ed] the victim card"?

Quote:Come to think of it, it reminds me of the acronym for identifying BPD behavioral traits:

DARVO
Deny
Attack
Reverse
Victim
Offender

This ring a bell to you? It sure has with me.

So what exactly would be the significance of me having BPD if I did have it? Would it mean that lactose is in fact a monosaccharide, that there is no such thing as the American College of Gastroentorology, that all eco-systems require regular mass death, that "ad hominem" means is Latin for insult? It bears on nothing. You haven't really thought this through. You can and will believe whatever you want about me. You can invent whatever fictional biography you want if it will make you feel better. I'll make it easy for you, I have every condition that is described in DSM-IV-TR? What then?

Never said you didn't know a thing or two. Just stating that you're behavior on the site as of late reminds me of the acronym DARVO, which is used mainly to identify behavioural traits of those with Borderline Personality Disorder.

You can dismiss my statements all you want, you can try to attack them too, but it really doesn't phase me. Your words hold no sway over how I feel about myself. You don't hold that kind of power. You only think you do.

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02-11-2013, 09:50 PM
RE: [split] Chippy vs the World
Btw - did chip ever produce those double blind studies on his theory that he demanded of Drz Fulton?

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02-11-2013, 09:54 PM
RE: [split] Chippy vs the World
(02-11-2013 09:38 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(02-11-2013 09:25 PM)Chippy Wrote:  To let you know that your post expresses a sense of discovery about something that was freely revealed. You feel compelled to attribute even what I freely divulge as the product of your perception and insight. That reeks of desperation.

I'm sorry you're so desperate. I can't help that you've become painfully obvious.

I don't need to pat myself on the back for determining what someone has explicitly told me. You need to do that because you are unable to actually determine anything substantive on this matter.

Also, you made a mockery of the principles you are claiming to uphold and foe which you rebuke me for (allegdly) not holding:

(1) You assumed that because you had never heard of the American College of Gastroentorology that there were no no such thing and you proceeded to try and ridicule me on the basis of that false premise.

(2) You were shown to be wrong about your claim that there were no such thing as the American College of Gastroentorology but have not conceded your error.

So you have committed what you are accusing me of doing.

This has just been a matter of me giving you enough rope. I'm shaking my head with a mixture of pathos and disbelief.
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02-11-2013, 09:57 PM
RE: [split] Chippy vs the World
(02-11-2013 08:47 PM)Chippy Wrote:  
(02-11-2013 05:42 PM)lucradis Wrote:  I read through this whole thread. It took me a while because I'm a busy guy.

Very entertaining and informative.

Also I'm really not sure why you guys all seem to have a hate on for chippy. Hilarious. I've quite enjoyed his posts thus far. Granted I've only seen the ones in this thread.

This whole thing is gold.

It's cognitive dissonance. The assumption that is causing them conflict is the naive idea that an educated, well-read and articulate person must be "nice". I know all tihis stuff on a broad range of topics but I am also vitriolic and poisonous. I've blocked the usual responses that would be invoked that relate to ignorance so the plan of attack becomes unclear. You can read the various responses to see how each of them is trying to resolve the dissonance. Here is a synopsis:

(1) I don't actually know anything and I am getting it all from Wikipedia. No one that has invoked this explanation has posted the Wikipedia pages that I am getting my knowledge from.

(2) I do know about all the stuff I post but I have no life and must spend all my time reading. This response is one step removed from resignation.

(3) The nit-picker. The nit-picker looks for things like spelling mistakes and grammatical errors as signs that indicate that somehow indicate that I aren't in reality intelligent or knowledgeable. The substance of my post is ignored and the syntax and grammatical error is used as the absolute measure.

(4) The self-assured ("I know more than you"). This is a strange response in that it commits what is presumed to be undesirable. Look at the "college" issue for a good example of this. I made a reference to determining the gastroentorological professions consensus view on a matter by reading gastroentorological colleges' position statements and other publications. ABeautifulmind asserted boldly that there are no such things as colleges of gastroentorology:

There is no such thing as a gastroenterology college.[1]

Momsurroundedbyboys gave that post a like so she clearly agrees that

There is no such thing as a gastroenterology college.[1]

Clearly there are gastroentorology colleges and colleges for every other specialisation of medicine.

Bear in mind that this plan of attack is predicated on me being ignorant and the interlocutor having superior knowledge. I subsequently posted links to a multitude of professional colleges[2]. Because the premise of the attack was superior knowledge it becomes impossible to concede error (something which I am accused of). See here and here. I am accused of poor word choice in calling a gastroentologists college a gastroentorologists college even though that is the correct name. ABeautifulmind just ignored this issue and the others (s)he was wrong about, see here.

For this response to even look effective the interlocutor must be correct and I wrong. Such was not the case here and ABeautifulmind and Momsurrounded by boys are hoist by their own petard.

(5) The internet forensic psychiatrist. The broad thrust of this approach is to seek to pathologise a behaviour on the basis of signs as revealed in posts. Nosological and psychpathological jargon will be invoked but this is just pseudoscientific decoration, it is really just an attempt at divination. This method of resolving the conflict is strange in that psychopathology is not mutually exclusive of intelligence or knowledge. Even if some psychopathology could be demonstrated it has no bearing on whether someone is correct in what they have posted. So this approach really resolves to that in (2), i.e. he knows stuff but he has no life/he knows stuff but he is mentally ill.

So it's cool for you to deduce and make logical leaps what someone is saying from their posts but not someone to Do it with what you say? Got it.

Sorry - what the fuck does this even mean? Who talks like this? No one. Classic logomachist nonsense.

Btw - in case you think I stole my vocab from you, my grandfather used to say "confounded!" All the time. I gleamed ersatz from watching the Big Bang Theory when Leonard's mother said that Raj and Howard had an ersatz homosexual marriage to satisfy their need for intimacy.

But go ahead and think it was you if you want..

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02-11-2013, 09:59 PM
RE: [split] Chippy vs the World
(02-11-2013 09:50 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  Btw - did chip ever produce those double blind studies on his theory that he demanded of Drz Fulton?

This is only going to end with you looking like the fool, so please carry on.
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02-11-2013, 10:01 PM
RE: [split] Chippy vs the World
(02-11-2013 09:59 PM)Chippy Wrote:  
(02-11-2013 09:50 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  Btw - did chip ever produce those double blind studies on his theory that he demanded of Drz Fulton?

This is only going to end with you looking like the fool, so please carry on.

That's why I asked the question. I haven't stated that you did, or didn't.

I did notice that you addressed the question, but failed to answer it...
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02-11-2013, 10:01 PM
RE: [split] Chippy vs the World
(02-11-2013 09:59 PM)Chippy Wrote:  
(02-11-2013 09:50 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  Btw - did chip ever produce those double blind studies on his theory that he demanded of Drz Fulton?

This is only going to end with you looking like the fool, so please carry on.

I guess that means he cant provide them.

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02-11-2013, 10:05 PM
RE: [split] Chippy vs the World
(02-11-2013 09:59 PM)Chippy Wrote:  
(02-11-2013 09:50 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  Btw - did chip ever produce those double blind studies on his theory that he demanded of Drz Fulton?

This is only going to end with you looking like the fool, so please carry on.

Remember that post I did mentionning Darvo?

Take a moment to think on that post.

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