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14-07-2014, 06:06 PM
RE: Congratulations.
(14-07-2014 05:19 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(14-07-2014 05:12 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  You know the issue with sticky buns today?
They don't make them like how I remember them growing up.
Growing up my mother occasionally brought some and they were like a big slice of log cake but with bread and jam and than the best icing you've ever tasted generously lathered ontop with a fine glaze. They were fantastic. But todays sticky buns are simple a a small hotdog bun with some soft generic pink icing with some coconut sprinkled ontop.

WTF IS UP WITH THAT SHIT!?

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You should film that. There's pretty good money in porn.
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14-07-2014, 06:51 PM
RE: Congratulations.
(14-07-2014 06:05 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(14-07-2014 05:19 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  I will hunt you down and jerk you myself. Angry

You're such a tease.


@woof, your comments were in relation to gay parents. I'm not searching for the thread because I'm lazy but they were offensive.

If you don't wanna apologize that's fine, my rep comment will remain. No amount of bitching about it from you or Dom or anyone else will change it. Only you can change it. If you wanna remain a homophobic fucktard than that's your prerogative just as it's my prerogative to hate you for it.

It's really that simple and has been since day 1.

He has explained over and over that he was talking about two males raising a child, and he is entitled to free speech and his opinion about that. Since no one is willing to hunt down actual comments, this whole conversation is pointless. I clearly remember him saying at one point that maybe men could parent, but it wasn't part of any apology and none is needed.

You making a teenage drama out of this and persecuting the man for MONTHS relentlessly, calling him every name in the book every time he says a peep is just ...... everyone fill in their own words.

Besides, Muffs, they way you act I doubt you are fit to raise any kid with anyone or by yourself. Grow up first.

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15-07-2014, 12:32 AM
RE: Congratulations.
Quote:He has explained over and over that he was talking about two males raising a child

Nope. The topic was about gay parents and so were his comments.

Quote:and he is entitled to free speech and his opinion about that.

As am I about him being a homophobic cunt.

Quote:this whole conversation is pointless

Yet you feel the need to bring it up and continue it.

Quote:You making a teenage drama out of this and persecuting the man for MONTHS relentlessly, calling him every name in the book every time he says a peep is just ...... everyone fill in their own words.

Not every time.

Quote:Besides, Muffs, they way you act I doubt you are fit to raise any kid with anyone or by yourself.

Not gonna have children. Hate children. Don't want them and it baffles me as to why anyone would.


Dom, I don't like you. You make something out of nothing a lot. Things are about to die and sink to the forgotten realms of the second page and nope, here's Dom to flare things up and make something out of nothing.
I've made it very clear my position on Woof many many times since day 1 what on Gods green Earth made you believe I would listen to you of all people? I have zero respect for you, I do not value your opinion in the slightest.
Besides, it wouldn't matter if I did anyway because the only one that can change my opinion is Woof, not you or anyone else. Call me childish, a bully whatever you want I don't care, I really don't, your opinion is meaningless to me.
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15-07-2014, 01:44 AM (This post was last modified: 15-07-2014 01:50 AM by Vosur.)
RE: Congratulations.
(14-07-2014 06:51 PM)Dom Wrote:  Since no one is willing to hunt down actual comments, this whole conversation is pointless.
Let me stop you right there - speak for yourself. Sleepy

(13-12-2012 06:08 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  I am not convinced that gay parenting is a good thing.
In the animal kingdom this rarely applies.
We have abundant problems with heterosexual parenting ; it does not follow that gay parenting will be better and there are additional problems to boot.
When the druggie Elton and his partner adopted, I was quite concerned for the child.
Surrogate paid mothers do not provide a good start and way down the track there may be serious psychological repercussions.
The child as a pet notion is worrisome.
What about bi sexual parenting?
I am not convinced that all gays are naturally predisposed; what of those opting for variation; is this a good feature for parenting?
While gay appeasement is becoming politically correct the issue of parenting needs sound evaluation.
There are many other issues.

And then there's this thread. I'll have to agree with earmuffs here, Dom. Mr Woof really is a bitter old cunt and an ignorant bigot.

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15-07-2014, 02:09 AM
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Wow, I honestly don't know what to say now. Thank you Vosur for linking that thread.
After reading this
"So now you are a psych therapist as well as a loud mouth,
My youthful experience with gays taught be that they aren't all poor deprived folk who have been eternally misunderstood, far from it!
You see gay culture through rose coloured glasses and refuse to consider any criticisms; like many others,you are hoodwinked by the claims that homosexuality is normal and not a condition to be acceptive of, or look to correct.
You refuse to consider that some gays involve themselves to a high degree in cruising, steam rooms,multiple partners, and are obsessed with sex. Rather you see them as potential hopes for young children and the unborn. You make no attempts to differentiate between bi sexuality and natural homosexuality, so called. The afflicted gay cannot turn the anal orifice into a vagina so in many cases says its just a matter of 'natural' choice.The same thing,quite normal. While a lie is told enough times to many, it becomes a truth.

You speak of the caring men but ignore the uncaring who would become part of the parenting legislation.
Your approach is to simplify and down grade all of the potential negative implications.
From an evolutionary stance, your rigid determinism sees man/woman as a joke, while our evolution depended on just that.
You speak of the sadness re the child born in the ghettoes and see salvation in the would be third sex.
Your whole approach is simplistic and geared to a highly questionable premise.
As you are 'right' anyone who disagrees is a bigot and fucktard.

Gay folk, like all of us, are good and bad in varying degrees and I think the genuine ones would prefer heterosexuality if they had the chance. Why wouldn't they? Any schism designed to advance gay sexuality at the expense of the conventional is to promote an inferior (by virtue of physical actuality) one.

I am very happy that in my youth I saw this optional (for some) life style for what it is, in at least some circumstances, and can warn others of embracing something that is not natural at all, in any meaningful sense, being, rather, a denied affliction."

I finally understand. Disgusting.

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15-07-2014, 05:43 AM
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Yikes.... Undecided
Thank you Vosur
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15-07-2014, 06:14 AM
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This is now one sided and does not include further comments by Woof - and I am not talking about the exasperated non-apology that he issued after Muffs made it his business to go to Woof's rep daily and write insults for months or longer - no one provided a date for the original posts. Just how long has this persecution been going on?

I am getting ready to go to the vet where my dog will be put to sleep and I am not inclined to sift through everything to find where Woof backpedaled.

Woofs comes from a different time and place and has his own indoctrinations. He sincerely tried several times to grow and adjust his opinion (and no, not when he was goaded and insulted and ended up angry like any of you would have) and every attempt was instantly thwarted because Muffs sits in judgement and he has made up his mind that Woof cannot learn.

Woof said the horrible things he was taught out loud, and now he has to shut up forever. He is denied the chance to change his mind. He is branded.

What the fuck is the point of discussion if neither party is allowed to grow and learn?

Intolerance very much went both ways here. If you want to change the world, you are not going to do it by calling other people names and intimidating them into silence for eons. You accomplish it by showing people where they went wrong, so they can adjust their opinion and then promote your ideas instead of the antiquated ones.

Maybe I am not as shocked as you are because not too long ago EVERYONE was Mr. Woofs. When the first gay activists poked their head out of the closet in the 70s, the were confronted with this and MUCH WORSE. Why did it change? Because a million CONVERSATIONS took place, because people were engaged, talked to and given a chance to understand and change. Without that, there would be no gay rights at all.

Relentless persecution has never solved any societal issues. Show me one case in history where this had a positive effect. Permanent, positive change to the better is always based on communication, not persecution.

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15-07-2014, 06:30 AM
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You're all fucking nuts! Smile
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15-07-2014, 06:37 AM
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I must have missed where he back peddled. If he no longer believes these things then let him say so and I will have no ill feelings towards him. If he believes anything like this then I'm sorry, but coming from a different time and place is no excuse for being willfully ignorant and intolerent.

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15-07-2014, 06:43 AM
RE: Congratulations.
(15-07-2014 06:37 AM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  I must have missed where he back peddled. If he no longer believes these things then let him say so and I will have no ill feelings towards him. If he believes anything like this then I'm sorry, but coming from a different time and place is no excuse for being willfully ignorant and intolerent.

He is not willfully ignorant and intolerant, he is indoctrinated. Very different thing, he simply believed what everyone around him believed in his formative years. It's not like he was born in the 90s and decided to willfully denounce what had become reasonably obvious to see by then.

Why does there have to be any excuse? He doesn't need to be excused. That is just as bad as persecuting him for it. This is not about excusing anything. This is about allowing and promoting change.

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