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25-02-2014, 03:16 PM
RE: [split] First time drug experience
(25-02-2014 03:12 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  Company policy has nothing to do with Cathy's spouting reefer madness bullshit. Her shit about company policy came later, when she was taken to the mat for spouting reefer madness bullshit.

What reefer "madness" (no exaggeration there) Rolleyes bullshit am I spouting? All I said was that I do not like pot use, or any kind of habitual drug use. This includes overuse of alcohol, bath salts, meth, prescription narcotics, etc., to get high.

I don't think anyone can argue that overuse of these drugs are good for the individual's health, or good for the lives of the people surrounding that person, and society as a whole to some extent.

I choose not to surround myself with people who abuse drugs or alcohol. what I don't understand is why that: 1) qualifies me as hysterical ; 2) engaging on a crusade; 3) or limiting anyone's use of the substance in any way. Huh

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25-02-2014, 03:18 PM
RE: [split] First time drug experience
(25-02-2014 03:15 PM)Stark Raving Wrote:  
(25-02-2014 03:02 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  Boy, Stark and Taq have some deep emotional attachments to their prospective crutches (resulting in some rage too).

Seriously though, can either of you attempt to understand the legal bind companies are in? Do both of you disagree with the usefulness of background checks for employment considerations?

What rage have you seen from me? Grouping me in with anyone, whether it's one person or a whole bunch, just makes you look like an asshole.



Cathy, as I wrote before my battery died.....fair enough. If you are required to test than so be it. I recant what I said about that part of the discussion.

As for the rest, well, it's degraded nicely into a six page clusterfuck. I made an effort to have a discussion. Meh. I won't chase people just to have discourse.

Cathy, PM me if you wanna talk more about this.

Timber, piss off.

Taq, Jesus man, go back and read what you're writing here. Take some time, a few deep breaths, and try to organize your ideas a little. You've effectively destroyed what could have been a great back and forth. ....remember, read every post you write twice before you post it.

Take your own advice. There is no talking to an idiot like Cathy who is entrenched in her delusions.

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25-02-2014, 03:19 PM
RE: [split] First time drug experience
Stark and Taq are not the only people "defending" the use of pot. I don't like it, I've never done it. I won't "defend" it exactly, but I will defend the people who do it and do not deserve such characterizations.

Cathy, you keep saying that you don't care and that it's just your opinion. You wonder why we have such a problem with your opinion. Well, in the same way that I don't want people in general to be misinformed and deluded because of religion, I similarly don't want people to be misinformed on a subject that concerns me personally.

I don't like the idea of you spreading the view that potheads are losers, because I happen to know many of them who are not losers. We're not trying to force you to like drugs, we're trying to give you a different perspective that might change the way you see things and maybe, in the future, you won't have to discriminate against people who don't deserve it.

You don't like them? Fine, no problem, I don't like them either. I actually wish my boyfriend would stop it because it's a terrible waste of money. Don't hire people who smoke pot, it is your right after all.

But please, telling me that my boyfriend is not there (which means he doesn't even respect me) because your BIL stole your meds and transfering to other people the idea that my boyfriend shouldn't be considered a normal person is something I believe I should react to and touch on.

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25-02-2014, 03:20 PM
RE: [split] First time drug experience
(25-02-2014 03:12 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(25-02-2014 03:02 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  Boy, Stark and Taq have some deep emotional attachments to their prospective crutches (resulting in some rage too).

Oh, look, Timber is using the same bullshit tactics Cathy is. And Timber is also just as ignorant on the issues as Cathy is. Whodathunkit.

Quote:Seriously though, can either of you attempt to understand the legal bind companies are in? Do both of you disagree with the usefulness of background checks for employment considerations?

Company policy has nothing to do with Cathy's spouting reefer madness bullshit. Her shit about company policy came later, when she was taken to the mat for spouting reefer madness bullshit.

Ah, I was waiting patiently for my attack to come. I was being sarcastic in the first sentence just to shed light on the unwarranted aggressiveness of these posts. Since when do opinions and policies make a person ignorant?

Why always so belligerent and confrontational? I think driving without a seatbelt on is pretty stupid, or a helmet on a bike - am I ignorant because of those opinions too?

I don't like the smell of weed, do not like the trouble it got my son into, not fond of the feeling it gives you either - so shoot me for stating my opinion.

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25-02-2014, 03:21 PM
RE: [split] First time drug experience
(25-02-2014 03:16 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  
(25-02-2014 03:12 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  Company policy has nothing to do with Cathy's spouting reefer madness bullshit. Her shit about company policy came later, when she was taken to the mat for spouting reefer madness bullshit.

What reefer "madness" (no exaggeration there) Rolleyes bullshit am I spouting? All I said was that I do not like pot use, or any kind of habitual drug use.

That is decidedly not all you said, as anyone can see from your posts here. Quit lying.

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25-02-2014, 03:23 PM
RE: [split] First time drug experience
(25-02-2014 03:16 PM)Lightvader Wrote:  
(25-02-2014 02:15 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  what is your problem with quotations on this forum all of a sudden? You high, TM? Laughat

Drug use is banned at my company. If you are found with alcohol in your system while on the clock, damn right you are getting fired. Why does this seem unfair to you?Consider

because if anyone uses alcohol or any drugs the night before work,it is still in their system the next day,and they won't be intoxicated the next day.
http://labtestsonline.org/understanding/...e/tab/test
so will you fire the person who drank alcohol the previous day?

If they drank so much that the alcohol is still in their system Yes. I have to. Thats the thing. If its not in the system, then I have no proof of it, then I cannot be held negligent. BUT, if it still is in the system, i can be held liable if that person is coincidentally involved in a work related accident. This doesn't happen often, but accidents involving heavy machinery are more severe than other not the job accidents. Like, you can easily lose your life, or your limbs. Put it this way: You just lost your arm due to your colleague's mistake. An honest mistake, but a mistake nonetheless that left you without your arm. Now, in my (your boss) hands is a copy of his recent drug test that shows a positive result for pot. What are you gonna do? You are going to sue me for millions because you can no longer work.

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25-02-2014, 03:23 PM
RE: [split] First time drug experience
I'm out... FTR I don't think MJ is too bad, just like alcohol, in moderation it takes the edge off... this is an opinion I have not always held - in the OCT I recall makin' some pretty confrontational posts myself Tongue Yeah, just was attracted by the discussion of the legal stuff (not that anyone noticed Weeping ), not that I know much about it.

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25-02-2014, 03:24 PM
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(25-02-2014 03:18 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(25-02-2014 03:15 PM)Stark Raving Wrote:  What rage have you seen from me? Grouping me in with anyone, whether it's one person or a whole bunch, just makes you look like an asshole.



Cathy, as I wrote before my battery died.....fair enough. If you are required to test than so be it. I recant what I said about that part of the discussion.

As for the rest, well, it's degraded nicely into a six page clusterfuck. I made an effort to have a discussion. Meh. I won't chase people just to have discourse.

Cathy, PM me if you wanna talk more about this.

Timber, piss off.

Taq, Jesus man, go back and read what you're writing here. Take some time, a few deep breaths, and try to organize your ideas a little. You've effectively destroyed what could have been a great back and forth. ....remember, read every post you write twice before you post it.

Take your own advice. There is no talking to an idiot like Cathy who is entrenched in her delusions.

I don't think anyone's necessarily an idiot here. Though there are a few things that have been said that are pretty idiotic.

....if it's any consolation, I did, in fact, take my own advice.


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25-02-2014, 03:24 PM
RE: [split] First time drug experience
(25-02-2014 03:20 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  
(25-02-2014 03:12 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  Oh, look, Timber is using the same bullshit tactics Cathy is. And Timber is also just as ignorant on the issues as Cathy is. Whodathunkit.


Company policy has nothing to do with Cathy's spouting reefer madness bullshit. Her shit about company policy came later, when she was taken to the mat for spouting reefer madness bullshit.

Ah, I was waiting patiently for my attack to come.

You asked for it. What is your problem?


Quote: I was being sarcastic in the first sentence just to shed light on the unwarranted aggressiveness of these posts. Since when do opinions and policies make a person ignorant?

They don't. Ignorance makes one ignorant.

Quote:Why always so belligerent and confrontational? I think driving without a seatbelt on is pretty stupid, or a helmet on a bike - am I ignorant because of those opinions too?

Strawman much?

Quote:I don't like the smell of weed, do not like the trouble it got my son into, not fond of the feeling it gives you either - so shoot me for stating my opinion.

Bu you didn't limit the bullshit you were spouting to just that, did you.

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25-02-2014, 03:27 PM
RE: [split] First time drug experience
(25-02-2014 03:23 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  
(25-02-2014 03:16 PM)Lightvader Wrote:  because if anyone uses alcohol or any drugs the night before work,it is still in their system the next day,and they won't be intoxicated the next day.
http://labtestsonline.org/understanding/...e/tab/test
so will you fire the person who drank alcohol the previous day?

If they drank so much that the alcohol is still in their system Yes. I have to. Thats the thing. If its not in the system, then I have no proof of it, then I cannot be held negligent. BUT, if it still is in the system, i can be held liable if that person is coincidentally involved in a work related accident. This doesn't happen often, but accidents involving heavy machinery are more severe than other not the job accidents. Like, you can easily lose your life, or your limbs. Put it this way: You just lost your arm due to your colleague's mistake. An honest mistake, but a mistake nonetheless that left you without your arm. Now, in my (your boss) hands is a copy of his recent drug test that shows a positive result for pot. What are you gonna do? You are going to sue me for millions because you can no longer work.

Again. Red Herring. You didn't say shit about your company and legal issues until you were taken to the ropes about all the other ignorant stereotypical bullshit you were spouting.

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