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24-02-2014, 05:41 PM
RE: First time drug experience
(24-02-2014 05:26 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  
(24-02-2014 05:12 PM)Lightvader Wrote:  That it hinders your attention and motoric skills,that i can believe. But not that it may heve greater carcinogenic potential than tabaco or that marijuana intoxication may affect long-term memory

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277837/

http://healthland.time.com/2011/07/19/st...mpairment/ (you have to scroll to find the link to the study. My shitty browser won't view the paper properly so i didn't link to it directly)

That may be true. However, I tend to think that bringing anything into your body other than what was intended naturally. (Oxygen, CO2, Nitrogen, etc) is probably hazardous to your health.
wich includes every medicine and proccessed food ever made depending on your definition of "natural"
Quote:Also, the other paper I cited, directly contradicts your second citation. Time magazine printed in 2011. The study from Medscape (a medical journal) was published in 2012.

yeah,the study could be wrong

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24-02-2014, 05:42 PM
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Sorry,i pressed back and enter again :shame:

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24-02-2014, 05:46 PM
RE: First time drug experience
To those habitual pot users:

I don't give a shit that you smoke pot. You do not need to defend your pot use to me. I don't care. It is your life - do what you want.

I think it is something a loser does, and I think more harm than good can be done by habitual use of the drug. It is a drug. It alters your mental state while using.

I don't think alcoholics are particularly stellar members of society either. I see no need for habitual alcohol use.

I've never had any glowing or positive experiences with potheads, crackheads, coke heads, or alcoholics, so this is just my personal opinion regarding its habitual use.

Why do you care what someone on the internet thinks of your behavior? If its what you want to do, keep on trucking. Cool

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24-02-2014, 05:47 PM
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(24-02-2014 05:42 PM)Lightvader Wrote:  Sorry,i pressed back and enter again :shame:

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24-02-2014, 05:47 PM
RE: First time drug experience
(24-02-2014 05:26 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  That may be true. However, I tend to think that bringing anything into your body other than what was intended naturally. (Oxygen, CO2, Nitrogen, etc) is probably hazardous to your health.

Nitrogen is the basis for my exit bag. Nitrogen just makes you go to sleep. CO2 makes you panic and spaz about first. Tongue

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24-02-2014, 05:48 PM
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(24-02-2014 05:47 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(24-02-2014 05:26 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  That may be true. However, I tend to think that bringing anything into your body other than what was intended naturally. (Oxygen, CO2, Nitrogen, etc) is probably hazardous to your health.

Nitrogen is the basis for my exit bag. Nitrogen just makes you go to sleep. CO2 makes you panic and spaz about first. Tongue

Too much nitrogen concentration makes you feel drunk. You just don't care about anything. Happens when you dive too deeply for too long. Scuba divers call this getting "Narked"

It also is responsible for giving you the Bends if you do not come to the service slowly for atmospheric decompression.

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24-02-2014, 05:51 PM
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(24-02-2014 05:40 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  
(24-02-2014 05:31 PM)Lightvader Wrote:  wich includes every medicine and proccessed food ever made depending on your definition of "natural"

Correct. Most prolonged use of medicine has negative side effects. Even Advil can have a negative effect on your liver if used long term.
Quote:please excuse my laziness to properly modify the tags...
You pointer out one example of a medicine that has neg. Effects when using it long-term,what about the other medicines that do not? (frankly,i don't know any because i don't know medicines)
also,could you define "natural"?
And your prev. statement implies that if something is natural,it is automatically good,and if something something is unnatural or manmade ,it is automatically worse. Did you mean to imply that?

Quote:Also, the other paper I cited, directly contradicts your second citation. Time magazine printed in 2011. The study from Medscape (a medical journal) was published in 2012.
Quote:yeah,the study could be wrong

yeah. Or time magazine could be too. No one is immune to mistakes.
i was actually saying the one i poinet could be wrong,since it's older hehehe

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24-02-2014, 05:52 PM
RE: First time drug experience
(24-02-2014 05:48 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  
(24-02-2014 05:47 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Nitrogen is the basis for my exit bag. Nitrogen just makes you go to sleep. CO2 makes you panic and spaz about first. Tongue

Too much nitrogen concentration makes you feel drunk. You just don't care about anything. Happens when you dive too deeply for too long. Scuba divers call this getting "Narked"

It also is responsible for giving you the Bends if you do not come to the service slowly for atmospheric decompression.

I'm talking about 100% nitrogen. Unconsciousness within 10-12 seconds, death within a couple of minutes, no panic response or spazzing about and it's virtually untraceable in an autopsy (assuming you got someone to get rid of the bag for you of course).

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24-02-2014, 05:53 PM
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There are a lot of people that smoke pot on a regular basis that you would never guess do. People from the top of the educational and economic level aren't that way just because they are straight (drug-wise). It seems that the attitude regarding the use of pot stems from a thought process reminiscent of Reefer Madness. That just isn't the case.

The man (I'll call him Jay) my sister has been with for years is in his 60s with a very high level career. Regular smoker, doesn't seem to have affected his ability to be not only a contributing member to society but also to be quite financially stable...more so than a lot of people I know. He has two sons with equally lofty educations and jobs, one is an attorney. Jay's mother commented to one of the grandsons that they should be careful with pot because they might get busted and ruin their careers. To which he responded that she needn't worry because he gets his hydro from my niece (my sister's daughter).


Yeah, there are those that get stoned, eat Cheetohs, and veg our on TV and video games. But there are many that are fully functioning, intelligent members of society that take a hit or two instead of a drink or two.

The choice to not consume anything mind or body altering is up to each person. And the effects are different for different people.

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24-02-2014, 05:54 PM
RE: First time drug experience
(24-02-2014 05:51 PM)Lightvader Wrote:  
(24-02-2014 05:40 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  Correct. Most prolonged use of medicine has negative side effects. Even Advil can have a negative effect on your liver if used long term.


yeah. Or time magazine could be too. No one is immune to mistakes.
i was actually saying the one i poinet could be wrong,since it's older hehehe

Ahhhhh...misunderstood. They both could be wrong. who knows?

Just for the record - I'm not one of these "organic" people.

I buy regular fruit, pesticide laden vegetables, and hormone filled meats. People have come to think the word Organic is synonymous with Good. Heroin is Organic. Opium is Organic. Arsenic is Organic. It doesn't make it good.

A lot of plants have both medicinal properties as well as poisonous ones. 99.9% of the time, the same plant has both properties.

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