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23-07-2016, 01:57 PM (This post was last modified: 23-07-2016 02:02 PM by Lord Dark Helmet.)
RE: [split] Hillary Email thing again
(23-07-2016 01:49 PM)WillHopp Wrote:  
(23-07-2016 01:45 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  That's all it really comes down to in this election. Two terrible, flawed candidates. But the supreme court is the most important thing. We know the type of justice each candidate will pick, so we'll have to vote on that issue.

Then again, we might be stuck with 8 justices for a while. If the republicans hold the Senate, they won't confirm any of her picks.

That won't happen. It's career suicide. They will approve whoever she nominates if that person is qualified. They can throw their infantile tantrums now, but they are going to have to swallow some serious crow when she wins and puts in someone way more liberal than Obama's guy. Fucking petulant children.

It's actually not career suicide. It probably USED TO BE, but not now. The country is divided. We are completely 100% partisan now. Here is a great article that explains how our country is practically divided in two now politically. http://www.people-press.org/2014/06/12/p...an-public/

The repercussions of shenanigans like blocking supreme Court picks are gone. The country is so divided by political party, it's going to be the new way things are done. Politicians rarely cross the aisle to vote with the other party. A party will need 2/3 votes to get anything through, if they don't hold both houses of Congress and the presidency.

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23-07-2016, 02:15 PM
RE: [split] Hillary Email thing again
(23-07-2016 01:57 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(23-07-2016 01:49 PM)WillHopp Wrote:  That won't happen. It's career suicide. They will approve whoever she nominates if that person is qualified. They can throw their infantile tantrums now, but they are going to have to swallow some serious crow when she wins and puts in someone way more liberal than Obama's guy. Fucking petulant children.

It's actually not career suicide. It probably USED TO BE, but not now. The country is divided. We are completely 100% partisan now. Here is a great article that explains how our country is practically divided in two now politically. http://www.people-press.org/2014/06/12/p...an-public/

The repercussions of shenanigans like blocking supreme Court picks are gone. The country is so divided by political party, it's going to be the new way things are done. Politicians rarely cross the aisle to vote with the other party. A party will need 2/3 votes to get anything through, if they don't hold both houses of Congress and the presidency.

But Supreme Court justices are voted in by senate alone.

I agree that the country is divided and the politiians are at least partially to blame for that (as well as the media who's job is to provide the best soundbite rather than reporting the news. Actually we need to stop seriously thinking of the people in front of the camera journalists. They're reading what other people wrote and nothing more. And if they're just offering opinion people watching need to better understand this. People today seem to think opinion are instantly fact depending on who says it. It's just not true. Like when Pat Robertson "reports" the news. It's not news it's only opinion based on their belief.

They need to stop pandering to the religious whackadoos and actually stop special interests.


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23-07-2016, 02:22 PM (This post was last modified: 23-07-2016 02:25 PM by Lord Dark Helmet.)
RE: [split] Hillary Email thing again
(23-07-2016 02:15 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(23-07-2016 01:57 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  It's actually not career suicide. It probably USED TO BE, but not now. The country is divided. We are completely 100% partisan now. Here is a great article that explains how our country is practically divided in two now politically. http://www.people-press.org/2014/06/12/p...an-public/

The repercussions of shenanigans like blocking supreme Court picks are gone. The country is so divided by political party, it's going to be the new way things are done. Politicians rarely cross the aisle to vote with the other party. A party will need 2/3 votes to get anything through, if they don't hold both houses of Congress and the presidency.

But Supreme Court justices are voted in by senate alone.

That's true. And it might be easier to turn the Senate to Democrat control than the House. But as the country becomes more divided, it will become increasingly more difficult to change the map. If they want to do it, they better do it this election. Because we're reaching a point where we might be stuck with the same party in the same area for a long time.

We could very well have the same makeup of Senate and House (party wise, only the names change) for the foreseeable future. There's very little wiggle room.

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24-07-2016, 12:12 PM
RE: [split] Hillary Email thing again
(23-07-2016 01:26 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  FBI director James Comey said they can't rule out that her server was breached (multiple hackers said they've hacked it easily), but for sure she sent classified emails to staff email accounts (non-government accounts) that they know were breached.
Citation please.

Quote:She sent and received emails from a private server with no real security, the subject matter of those emails were classified AT THE TIME they were sent. She should have known the junk she was talking about was classified. She's the freaking secretary of state, she should have assumed EVERYTHING she discussed was potentially classified. It shows extremely poor judgement. Extremely poor.
Agreed. A serious lack of judgment considering her position as SoS. But again—what type of breach, if any, has been proven?

Quote:As for Trump's bankruptcies, so what? They didn't jeopardize national security. He has 4 bankruptcies out of 500+ businesses. All 4 bankruptcies were hotel/casino related. It is common for casino businesses to file bankruptcy. Caesars Casinos in Vegas were going through it recently. It's a tough business. No, bankruptcy is not criminal.
Chapter 11 bankruptcy is designed as an alternative to the company being placed in the hands of administrators or becoming insolvent. It's a corporate "band-aid" of you like. And Drumpf's four cases illustrates how poor his business rationale is. Do you seriously want him as the CEO of any vitally important US company in which you're a shareholder? Such as America? And it's yet to be proved that Clinton has or did implement any criminal acts, as punishable by law.

And for the record, Drumpf's bankruptcies were as per:

• The Trump Taj Mahal = $3 billion in debt,
• Trump Plaza Hotel = $550 million in debt,
• Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts = $1.8 billion in debt,
• Trump Entertainment Resorts (a 'Phoenix' company) = failed $53.5 million bond interest payment.

Not exactly a great track record for a self-styled "successful" entrepreneur LOL.

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24-07-2016, 01:21 PM
RE: [split] Hillary Email thing again
(23-07-2016 12:21 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  None of which were marked classified like Hillary's were.

None of the emails in question were properly marked as classified. And if you think Trump could ever pass a background check for even a low-level security clearance you have no clue how it works. But thanks for playing.

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24-07-2016, 01:39 PM (This post was last modified: 24-07-2016 01:42 PM by Lord Dark Helmet.)
RE: [split] Hillary Email thing again
(24-07-2016 12:12 PM)SYZ Wrote:  
(23-07-2016 01:26 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  FBI director James Comey said they can't rule out that her server was breached (multiple hackers said they've hacked it easily), but for sure she sent classified emails to staff email accounts (non-government accounts) that they know were breached.
Citation please.

Quote:She sent and received emails from a private server with no real security, the subject matter of those emails were classified AT THE TIME they were sent. She should have known the junk she was talking about was classified. She's the freaking secretary of state, she should have assumed EVERYTHING she discussed was potentially classified. It shows extremely poor judgement. Extremely poor.
Agreed. A serious lack of judgment considering her position as SoS. But again—what type of breach, if any, has been proven?

Quote:As for Trump's bankruptcies, so what? They didn't jeopardize national security. He has 4 bankruptcies out of 500+ businesses. All 4 bankruptcies were hotel/casino related. It is common for casino businesses to file bankruptcy. Caesars Casinos in Vegas were going through it recently. It's a tough business. No, bankruptcy is not criminal.
Chapter 11 bankruptcy is designed as an alternative to the company being placed in the hands of administrators or becoming insolvent. It's a corporate "band-aid" of you like. And Drumpf's four cases illustrates how poor his business rationale is. Do you seriously want him as the CEO of any vitally important US company in which you're a shareholder? Such as America? And it's yet to be proved that Clinton has or did implement any criminal acts, as punishable by law.

And for the record, Drumpf's bankruptcies were as per:

• The Trump Taj Mahal = $3 billion in debt,
• Trump Plaza Hotel = $550 million in debt,
• Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts = $1.8 billion in debt,
• Trump Entertainment Resorts (a 'Phoenix' company) = failed $53.5 million bond interest payment.

Not exactly a great track record for a self-styled "successful" entrepreneur LOL.

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FBI director James Comey said in his press conference that she had been sending these emails to her staff on commercial email accounts (non government accounts) and that these email accounts had been breached by hackers. At 0:56 in this video he talks about it.





And as I said, Trump has owned 500+ businesses, hotels, golf courses, properties etc. Only 4 of them went bankrupt, and ALL were high risk properties related to the casino industry in failing Atlantic City. If you investigate it further, you'll see that many Atlantic City casinos filed for bankruptcy after other neighboring states began legalizing gambling and opening casinos. The boom in other states has made Atlantic City obsolete.

Trump's 500 other businesses and properties are just fine.

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