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10-06-2014, 08:34 PM
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(09-06-2014 03:37 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  A FOLLOWER OF HIS LIFE AND TEACHINGS. LIFE AND TEACHINGS. LIFE AND TEACHINGS. LIFE AND TEACHINGS.

Is that better?

I fucking love it when trolls cry.

It's Special Pleadings all the way down!


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10-06-2014, 08:39 PM
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(09-06-2014 04:19 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  Christ taught..

HEY. ASSHOLE. You haven't shown this person to have actually existed.


Quote:that men should love God and love each other as they love themselves.

Sooooooooooo....men should fap each other.

Quote:blah blah blah...
Hitler was not a person that lived by this law. Nor were those who were responsible for the inquisition nor were those who killed Jews and Muslims because they were Jews and Muslims.

Anyone that is honest and who has eyes and who knows what Christ taught will know this.

It is not a mystery.

They ALL professed their beliefs in YOUR superstitions and your mythical magical zombiedude.

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10-06-2014, 08:44 PM (This post was last modified: 10-06-2014 09:06 PM by rampant.a.i..)
[split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(10-06-2014 02:48 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  Seven of you have expressed moral outrage against this man.

I want to ask you all a question:

Are any of you meta-ethical moral relativists?

Personally I'm an abullshitist.

Whoever bought up the PM about "Past poor choices, needed Jesus" as "evidence," showing that Jeremy is one of those poor souls who have poor judgement, make horrible choices, and get "saved" by imitating a messiah figure who actually has empathy.

He can't fathom how anyone could think differently, because he lacks a core mental component.

So, he embarks on a religion to convert the same empathetic, good, moral folks from whatever he used to do.

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So now, everyone who doesn't believe exactly what he does is just as bad as he was without a role model. Egotism is a helluva drug.

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10-06-2014, 08:47 PM
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(10-06-2014 06:02 AM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  I see posts full of obscenities and hateful language.

I see people calling me a troll and personally attacking me.


That's what you get when you troll, asshole.


Quote:I see very little engagement of the points I have made.

You haven't made any points.


Quote:And yet you want me to believe you all are somehow 'moral'?


AS FUCKING IF you were moral.

Quote:That you all are somehow the bastion of rationality and reason?

The good folks here have handily and easily destroyed your batshit assertions.

Quote:How does it help your cause to act the same way as the narrow minded and dogmatic religious you see as being a threat to society?

We don't -- but your admission of your own narrowmindedness, ignorant dogmatism and outrageous behavior are noted.

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10-06-2014, 08:52 PM
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(10-06-2014 09:12 AM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(10-06-2014 09:04 AM)Impulse Wrote:  Ah, denying only what's not too inconvenient to give up. Typical. You must love lent. Drinking Beverage

I do not observe Lent. You assumed I did. I use my computer for many things. To pay bills, to look at news. For work, to correspond with friends and to talk to others about Jesus. I also play Chess.

If I were to use it for evil purposes or if God called me to abdtain from using it for a time as He has in the past, and did not deny myself and still used it, then I would be in sin.

Trolling your bullshit here in this forum is evil purposes, asswipe.

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10-06-2014, 08:57 PM
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(10-06-2014 02:24 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(10-06-2014 02:20 PM)TheBear Wrote:  For the same reason you're not a follower of Aphrodite.

Drinking Beverage

I do not follow Aphrodite because she is a lousy person to follow. Nor did she die so that I might live.

Bear, I have had people say what you have said to me using different people/gods. The answer I give you is the answer I give them.

Its a lousy argument.

You are a crazy asshole. You are worshipping a asshole Yahveh god.
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10-06-2014, 09:03 PM
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(10-06-2014 03:31 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(10-06-2014 02:56 PM)guitar_nut Wrote:  Then please provide the 'correct' definition of selfish. Here's what I'm using:

'concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself : seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well-being without regard for others'

When I play guitar in my room, I am concerned only with myself. I am trying to improve a skill of mine. I do not think of others when I am playing guitar and I do it strictly for my own enjoyment without regard for others. My guitar music does not help a single person. This fits perfectly within the definition of selfishness.

I could turn my amp up and annoy my neighbors. This also fits perfectly within the definition of selfishness.

Note that selfishness doesn't have to be harmful to others; it is simply an action performed without regards to others, for self-benefit. It is also not a permanent state.

To think all selfish behavior is bad is ridiculous. Religion has tacked a bunch of baggage onto the pursuit of happiness and turned it into some sort of sin. No thank you.

this whole discussion started when I asked the questions:

Why not live a life of utter self-denial and self sacrifice so that those around you who you encounter on a day to day basis may be edified and built up and encouraged?

Why not give to those who are in need without expecting anything in return? Why not love your enemies and bless those who curse you?

Why not seek to always do that which is right for the sake of righteousness?

Why not love your neighbor as yourself and always be mindful of other people and esteem others more highly than yourself?


A true scotsman responded by saying

"Because that is the life of a sacrificial animal. Because those ideas are unspeakably evil. It is the morality of death......What is wrong with your own happiness being your highest purpose in life? Why do we ever need to sacrifice? Why not enjoy your life and use your mind to the fullest to achieve your own purpose neither sacrificing yourself to others or others to yourself?"

Now, you are wrong in thinking that I have something against you playing the guitar. When I say that real men are selfless and not selfish, I am not saying that real men never do things for themselves.

What I am saying is that real men do not live selfish LIVES. They do not make it their life's end to do whatever they please whenever they please at the expense of other people. They do not make a habit of placing their own wants and needs before those around them. I denounce the ideology that a selfish lifestyle is something virtuous. NOTICE I SAID LIFESTYLE.

I paint oil landscapes and play the guitar. I also like sportbikes. But I do not order my life around these things at the expense of other people. I do not think life is all about me and about what I want or what I need. That is what I denounce and that is the selfishness I speak out against.

Real men do not live for themselves at the expense of others.

That is something that children do that do not know any better or know better but do not care. Either way, it is not virtuous. It is cowardly and self-centered.

But heck, in a world where each is left to do what he wills, this is all men really have to live for.
You aren't a real man. You are coward.
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10-06-2014, 09:08 PM
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(10-06-2014 12:26 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(10-06-2014 12:09 PM)guitar_nut Wrote:  It appears the following occupations are selfish and do not contribute to society as they do not involve great personal risk:

School teacher
Garbage man
Priest
Home builder
Engineer
Scientist
Therapist
Artist
Personal trainer
Vet

another ridiculous post. just because someone has a job that is dangerous does not mean they are selfless.

Incidentally, here in America, it is becoming increasingly dangerous to be a school teacher. Just this minute a news report has indicated that at least one person has been shot to death at an Oregon High School.

Why you are talking about ridiculous posts? You are a guy that have over 1000 ridiculous posts.
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10-06-2014, 09:17 PM
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(10-06-2014 09:30 AM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  I do not believe in being an ascetic for the sake of being an ascetic. There are ascetics that are ascetics for selfish reasons which would be self defeating. If God called me to give up the life and family and things He has given me, I would seek to do that by His help. But God has not called me to be an ascetic. Rather, He has called me to glorify Him right where I am and use the things He has given me in a manner that bring glory to Him and edify those around me.

And exactly how do you claim that this mythical gawd-thing that you haven't shown to actually exist, called you? Did he show up at your door with a six-pack?



Quote:In order to do this, I have to deny myself. Simply meaning that I deny myself when I have the lustful desire to look at porn on my computer or to return cursing for cursing and evil for evil to people here on this forum when they slander me. I use my computer in a manner that is glorifying to God and in this I must deny myself.

You use your computer in a manner that makes a fool of both you and your mythical gawd-thing. It's your own fault that you are too deluded and ignorant to figure it out.

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10-06-2014, 09:19 PM
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(10-06-2014 09:52 AM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  I think it shallow to live a self centered life. Paradoxically, I found true happiness in living for others instead of myself.

This life is only for those who choose to live by faith. For Christ said he who seeks to save his life will lose it but he who loses his life for His sake would find it.

There is no comparison when you take the life of Christ or someone like Mother Teresa and lay it next to the life of some selfish self centered person and compare the two.

The difference is as wide as the sea and rightfully so.

Your trolling here and deluding yourself into thinking you are doing some sort of good by doing it is PRECISELY living a self-centered, egotistical, prideful life. You STINK of pride and arrogant egotism.

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