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12-06-2014, 03:29 PM (This post was last modified: 12-06-2014 03:36 PM by Taqiyya Mockingbird.)
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(12-06-2014 03:23 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 03:22 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  Like taq said - the flood. Oh, and the whole book of numbers for a start.

Where in the Genesis account does it say that the men killed in the flood were killed because they were men the babies for being babies and the women for being women?

They were killed for being human, simply being alive, you weaseling son of a bitch.


Quote:Where in Numbers is this found?

Hey, lookie here, asswipe:

(Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)



They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.



Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.



(Judges 21:10-24 NLT)



So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.



The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."



Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.

(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)



As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.




And fucking so on. You really ought to read your fairy tale book, moron.


We have already been through this before with you. Which you ignored, which is what you always do when your bullshit assertions are destroyed.

It's Special Pleadings all the way down!


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12-06-2014, 03:42 PM
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the lying hypocritical pussy motherfucker runs away. Again.

It's Special Pleadings all the way down!


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12-06-2014, 03:45 PM
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(12-06-2014 02:59 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 01:28 PM)true scotsman Wrote:  Even though he exists only in the imagination of believers?

Even if this were true, yes.

It is true. I've shown you why it's true. You did not refute it. You can't refute it because it's true.

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12-06-2014, 03:52 PM
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(12-06-2014 03:26 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 03:22 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  Not eros love.

But phileo love.

My point hasn't changed. All you know is your hatred and your ignorant arrogance. You don't know what the fuck love for your fellow man is.

I hate no one.
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12-06-2014, 03:55 PM
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(12-06-2014 03:29 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 03:23 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  Where in the Genesis account does it say that the men killed in the flood were killed because they were men the babies for being babies and the women for being women?

They were killed for being human, simply being alive, you weaseling son of a bitch.


Quote:Where in Numbers is this found?

Hey, lookie here, asswipe:

(Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)



They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.



Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.



(Judges 21:10-24 NLT)



So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.



The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."



Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.

(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)



As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.




And fucking so on. You really ought to read your fairy tale book, moron.


We have already been through this before with you. Which you ignored, which is what you always do when your bullshit assertions are destroyed.

And once again my point is reinforced. None of the above supports the assertion that God was responsible for killing people because they were human beings. There were specific reasons which you need to furnish along with the texts found in other texts which have been omitted.
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12-06-2014, 03:56 PM
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(12-06-2014 03:52 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 03:26 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  My point hasn't changed. All you know is your hatred and your ignorant arrogance. You don't know what the fuck love for your fellow man is.

I hate no one.

Except yourself - hence the need for justification through mind games.

“Truth does not demand belief. Scientists do not join hands every Sunday, singing, yes, gravity is real! I will have faith! I will be strong! I believe in my heart that what goes up, up, up, must come down, down, down. Amen! If they did, we would think they were pretty insecure about it.”
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12-06-2014, 03:56 PM
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(12-06-2014 03:45 PM)true scotsman Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 02:59 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  Even if this were true, yes.

It is true. I've shown you why it's true. You did not refute it. You can't refute it because it's true.

what have you shown me exactly? your opinion?
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12-06-2014, 03:57 PM
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(12-06-2014 03:56 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 03:52 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  I hate no one.

Except yourself - hence the need for justification through mind games.

I do not hate myself. No one means no one.
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12-06-2014, 04:01 PM
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(12-06-2014 03:07 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 03:03 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  Christ on a stick - you are insane! If your holy book only killed serial rapists and murderers, we all would be more on the same page - BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE NOW IS IT! Men, babies and children slaughtered for being... men, babies and children. Women slaughtered for being... women and not a young virgin. You are a danger to a healthy society and need to shut up before your true disgusting colors show - oh too late!
But you cannot provide one instance where God has been responsible for killing a man because he was a man, a baby because it was a baby or a woman because she was a woman or a virgin because she was a virgin.

I will wait for you to provide one instance where He has done any of the above.

Jesus.

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12-06-2014, 04:02 PM
RE: [split] I need to rant to other atheists.
(12-06-2014 04:01 PM)kim Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 03:07 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  But you cannot provide one instance where God has been responsible for killing a man because he was a man, a baby because it was a baby or a woman because she was a woman or a virgin because she was a virgin.

I will wait for you to provide one instance where He has done any of the above.

Jesus.

What about Him?
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