[split] Office Depot refuses to print a religious flyer against abortion
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25-09-2015, 03:10 PM
RE: [split] Office Depot refuses to print a religious flyer against abortion
(25-09-2015 01:31 PM)Matt Finney Wrote:  
(25-09-2015 09:06 AM)Azaraith Wrote:  it affects others besides the idiots that choose to do it, so keep it out of buildings where people have to go to work. Or shop for that matter.

When you say "idiot" are you referring to all smokers, or just the ones like DLJ who smoke inside bars?

All, considering the choice is a very dumb one to make given the well-known, irrefutable negative effects of smoking and lack of any good reason to take up the addiction.

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26-09-2015, 01:20 PM
RE: [split] Office Depot refuses to print a religious flyer against abortion
(25-09-2015 03:10 PM)Azaraith Wrote:  
(25-09-2015 01:31 PM)Matt Finney Wrote:  When you say "idiot" are you referring to all smokers, or just the ones like DLJ who smoke inside bars?

All, considering the choice is a very dumb one to make given the well-known, irrefutable negative effects of smoking and lack of any good reason to take up the addiction.

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26-09-2015, 07:59 PM
RE: [split] Office Depot refuses to print a religious flyer against abortion
(26-09-2015 01:20 PM)Old Man Marsh Wrote:  
(25-09-2015 03:10 PM)Azaraith Wrote:  All, considering the choice is a very dumb one to make given the well-known, irrefutable negative effects of smoking and lack of any good reason to take up the addiction.

BS! It makes you look cool!

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I've never understood the 'smoking makes you cool' phenomenon...

We've known for at least a few decades how bad those things are for people, and yet users are 'cool'? I would have expected that a stigma would have developed around users as health results became progressively clearer.

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26-09-2015, 08:43 PM
RE: [split] Office Depot refuses to print a religious flyer against abortion
(24-09-2015 03:03 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(19-09-2015 03:21 AM)Chas Wrote:  People's rights are limited by the society in which they live, not granted.

We all have the right to ourselves and all else flows from this. If you think your rights are greater than others', you will be in for a rude awakening.

But that still doesn't follow. If you live in a society where, for hypothetical sake 'might makes right', than anyone who can impose themselves on you has the 'right' to do so. You have no right to self, you only have as many 'rights' as you are able to enforce upon others. Your 'rights' are directly correlated to your personal ability to impose them on others by force, threat of force, or other forms of coercion.

Telling Genghis Khan that you have a 'right to yourself' as he is pillaging your village around you is going to do fuck all to stop him, or force him to otherwise respect your imagined 'right'.

Even the 'right to self' relies upon consensus.

It relies on reason and it relies on fear of consequences; consensus follows.

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26-09-2015, 08:44 PM
RE: [split] Office Depot refuses to print a religious flyer against abortion
(19-09-2015 03:54 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(19-09-2015 03:21 AM)Chas Wrote:  ...
People's rights are limited by the society in which they live, not granted.
...

Two exceptions:

IT Services (access rights are restricted until granted)
North Korea.

Consider

Those are restrictions, are they not? Consider

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26-09-2015, 08:54 PM
RE: [split] Office Depot refuses to print a religious flyer against abortion
(26-09-2015 07:59 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(26-09-2015 01:20 PM)Old Man Marsh Wrote:  BS! It makes you look cool!

Laugh out load

I've never understood the 'smoking makes you cool' phenomenon...

We've known for at least a few decades how bad those things are for people, and yet users are 'cool'? I would have expected that a stigma would have developed around users as health results became progressively clearer.


I think it is from the 40's and 50's. America was heavily influenced by those decades. Bogart smoking in films along with others. McCarthyism still exists in, for example, the attitude toward public health. You know, universal health care is a Commie plot.

And of course the influence through music and film upon the rest of the world. Cuba and south America cigars, Australia until recently cigarettes etc etc.

Of course I may be wrong.

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26-09-2015, 09:27 PM
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(26-09-2015 07:59 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(26-09-2015 01:20 PM)Old Man Marsh Wrote:  BS! It makes you look cool!

Laugh out load

I've never understood the 'smoking makes you cool' phenomenon...

We've known for at least a few decades how bad those things are for people, and yet users are 'cool'? I would have expected that a stigma would have developed around users as health results became progressively clearer.

Sorry. I'm satirical almost to a fault.

I'm also a hypocrite. I gave up cigarettes a year ago... by switching to a pipe. Pipe tobacco is much cheaper, and I smoke less tobacco bý volume, but some days I still wake up with a feeling that there are barbells in my ribcage. Don't smoke. After a while, it hurts.

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26-09-2015, 09:32 PM
RE: [split] Office Depot refuses to print a religious flyer against abortion
(26-09-2015 09:27 PM)Old Man Marsh Wrote:  B
(26-09-2015 07:59 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  I've never understood the 'smoking makes you cool' phenomenon...

We've known for at least a few decades how bad those things are for people, and yet users are 'cool'? I would have expected that a stigma would have developed around users as health results became progressively clearer.

Sorry. I'm satirical almost to a fault.

I'm also a hypocrite. I gave up cigarettes a year ago... by switching to a pipe. Pipe tobacco is much cheaper, and I smoke less tobacco bý volume, but some days I still wake up with a feeling that there are barbells in my ribcage. Don't smoke. After a while, it hurts.

No need to worry about me smoking.

I've had a lifetime's worth of that disgusting smoke in my lungs (my parents were fairly heavy smokers, still are to a degree) already and I know what that shit can do to you.

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