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01-09-2014, 01:15 PM
RE: [split] Unique Experience
(28-08-2014 04:20 AM)Stevil Wrote:  
(28-08-2014 12:16 AM)Muslim Wrote:  for me it is what God doesn't like, but it is not that simple

Imagine it as a tree, general rules then exceptions (and sometimes exceptions of the exceptions)

1-What God consider it as bad
2-Hurting others
3-Destroying properties
4-Tampering with God creation
etc.
What do you consider to be your obligation with regards to 1?
Do you feel obligation to personally refrain from doing what you believe your god considers as bad?

Do you feel obligation to police other people, to stop them doing what you believe your god considers as bad?
It is not that simple
This is the purpose of religion
to guide you in what to do or don't do
and Yes, in Islam we are (sometimes) to try to stop people from doing bad
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01-09-2014, 01:34 PM
RE: [split] Unique Experience
(01-09-2014 01:15 PM)Muslim Wrote:  
(28-08-2014 04:20 AM)Stevil Wrote:  What do you consider to be your obligation with regards to 1?
Do you feel obligation to personally refrain from doing what you believe your god considers as bad?

Do you feel obligation to police other people, to stop them doing what you believe your god considers as bad?
It is not that simple
This is the purpose of religion
to guide you in what to do or don't do
and Yes, in Islam we are (sometimes) to try to stop people from doing bad
Christianity also has that problem, where they try and stop people (by force) from doing what they believe as bad even though those activities of the people are no danger to society.

It is this reason why atheists can be motivated against religions. We don't want to be oppressed and/or have force used against us, when we are peacefully going about our own lives.

If you take it upon yourself to behave good, and if you take it upon yourself to eat the right food at the right times, and to pray to your own god, then we don't have any reason to have issues with you.
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02-09-2014, 01:04 AM (This post was last modified: 02-09-2014 01:15 AM by Muslim.)
RE: [split] Unique Experience
(01-09-2014 01:34 PM)Stevil Wrote:  Christianity also has that problem, where they try and stop people (by force) from doing what they believe as bad even though those activities of the people are no danger to society.

Quote:It is this reason why atheists can be motivated against religions. We don't want to be oppressed and/or have force used against us, when we are peacefully going about our own lives.
This the nature of the creation, God created good and evil
and he wanted them to fight, debate even to have wars
It doesn't matter if you like it or not!
Even we as Muslim sometimes we don't like to do some good things

Quote:If you take it upon yourself to behave good, and if you take it upon yourself to eat the right food at the right times, and to pray to your own god, then we don't have any reason to have issues with you.
It is not the case, Islam doesn't respect other religions
On the contrary, it sometimes motivates them to fight back.
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02-09-2014, 01:07 AM
RE: [split] Unique Experience
(02-09-2014 01:04 AM)Muslim Wrote:  
(01-09-2014 01:34 PM)Stevil Wrote:  Christianity also has that problem, where they try and stop people (by force) from doing what they believe as bad even though those activities of the people are no danger to society.

Quote:It is this reason why atheists can be motivated against religions. We don't want to be oppressed and/or have force used against us, when we are peacefully going about our own lives.
This the nature of the creation, God created good and evil
and he wanted them to fight, debate even to have wars
It doesn't matter if you like it or not!
Even we as Muslim sometimes we don't like to do some good things

Quote:If you take it upon yourself to behave good, and if you take it upon yourself to eat the right food at the right times, and to pray to your own god, then we don't have any reason to have issues with you.
It is not the case, Islam doesn't respect other religions
On the contrary, it sometimes motivate them to fight back.

Behold! The uneducated idiot talking about his made up religions' views on a made up god through the power of a computer that sure as shit ain't run on prayers.

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02-09-2014, 06:04 AM
RE: [split] Unique Experience
(02-09-2014 01:04 AM)Muslim Wrote:  
(01-09-2014 01:34 PM)Stevil Wrote:  Christianity also has that problem, where they try and stop people (by force) from doing what they believe as bad even though those activities of the people are no danger to society.

Quote:It is this reason why atheists can be motivated against religions. We don't want to be oppressed and/or have force used against us, when we are peacefully going about our own lives.
This the nature of the creation, God created good and evil
and he wanted them to fight, debate even to have wars
It doesn't matter if you like it or not!
Even we as Muslim sometimes we don't like to do some good things

Quote:If you take it upon yourself to behave good, and if you take it upon yourself to eat the right food at the right times, and to pray to your own god, then we don't have any reason to have issues with you.
It is not the case, Islam doesn't respect other religions
On the contrary, it sometimes motivates them to fight back.

Oh, now it's "Allah made me do it." That is the last excuse for the cowardly.

As long as you keep spewing your silly theology and your ugly views and your brainwashed thinking, you will not be taken seriously as a thinking person.

However, I take seriously that your attitude is a danger to civilized people. If you people continue it, you will be destroyed.

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02-09-2014, 08:31 AM
RE: [split] Unique Experience
(02-09-2014 06:04 AM)Chas Wrote:  However, I take seriously that your attitude is a danger to civilized people.
Exactly, Islam is a threat to any other "religion"

Quote: If you people continue it, you will be destroyed
Don't think so, Eventually Islam will concur the world
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02-09-2014, 08:39 AM
RE: [split] Unique Experience
(02-09-2014 08:31 AM)Muslim Wrote:  Don't think so, Eventually Islam will concur the world

Laugh out load Islam will do no such thing. Try learning to spell too. It's conquer dumbass.

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02-09-2014, 10:24 AM
RE: [split] Unique Experience
(02-09-2014 08:31 AM)Muslim Wrote:  
(02-09-2014 06:04 AM)Chas Wrote:  However, I take seriously that your attitude is a danger to civilized people.
Exactly, Islam is a threat to any other "religion"
He did not say it was a threat to other religions you dumb motherfucker, he said it's a danger to civilizations which it is. Your fake religion and it's made up claims retard human development everywhere they spread. It's not just a bad religion, it's made up and demonstrably harmful.

The world would be a demonstrably better place without you and your stupid views.

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02-09-2014, 01:41 PM
RE: [split] Unique Experience
(02-09-2014 08:31 AM)Muslim Wrote:  Don't think so, Eventually Islam will concur the world
The way you talk, your view of Islam is a religion of war, hatred and intolerance.

Atheism on the other hand has no war to make. We are only interested in protecting ourselves from whomever seeks to attack.
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02-09-2014, 01:45 PM
RE: [split] Unique Experience
(02-09-2014 01:04 AM)Muslim Wrote:  This the nature of the creation, God created good and evil
and he wanted them to fight, debate even to have wars
It doesn't matter if you like it or not!
Even we as Muslim sometimes we don't like to do some good things
I have no blood on my hands, I have no interest in forcing others to behave a certain way, to believe in certain things.

It is your insistence on knowing Good vs Evil that make you a potential threat.
It is your belief that force is justified to get people to conform that makes you a supporter of violence.
I hope you aren't stupid enough to take it upon yourself to violently influence society.
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